White House Says Trump Will Meet With 'Members Of The Video Game Industry' Next Week
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Link - https://kotaku.com/white-house-says-trump-will-meet-with-members-of-the-vi-1823437500
I would love to be a fly on the wall for that one
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Here is a Trump game: http://trumpdonald.org/
Actually I just realized my post wasn't quite complete.
I should've written:
How Australia ended gun violence, in 1996 they got rid of guns, there has not been a mass shooting since. - http://fortune.com/2018/02/20/australia-gun-control-success/
For anything like Australia and the UK to work here in the US, it needs to be done at the federal level (which will never happen). Gun restrictions at the state/city level do not exactly work. Everyone likes to cite Chicago's gun violence and tough gun laws. Gun laws don't care about state lines. So what if Chicago has tough laws when you can take a 15-20 minute drive to Indiana and buy enough guns to even outgun Arnold in "Commando".
On a side note, how did the UK and Australia get people to hand over their guns? Defend the 2nd and "From my cold dead hands" is pretty much ingrained into most gun owners here, because who here doesn't hunt with a mini-gun?
Get out while you still can.
But seriously dudes ,history is repeating itself .
Remember the mortal combat scare of 94'?
The esrb was made because of this, who knows what is next.
but I'm going to turn it Around.
Because I will be Meeting with Members of the Video game industry next week, as well.
we are going to have Intelligent Conversations and make a lot of Progress. and hopefully, a Ton of cash. We're going to do Great Work.
there will be no Forum Posts about this.
Also those sweeping changs too the AUS gun laws were enacted by the then Liberal Federal Government, (conservative side of the isle) similarly aligned in terms of political mindset to the US Republican Party plus these raft of policies gained 90% public support.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html
As an aside commenting as an ex-vet, back in the day I'd served alongside American forces whilst on exchange and when the conversation invaribly turned to the subject of gun ownership their overwelming response I recall was that in general a prevalent lack of respect your average joe blow had when handling a firearm of any description, it was as if likened to unwrapping a candy bar?!
You play video games in excess you have a disorder.
https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/2/17070690/donald-trump-video-game-gun-violence
I like how TV/Film always dodges these discussions. If you're going to do the 'violent entertainment hurts our children thing' at least be fair.
Hooray! The 90's were awesome
To be fair, he did call out movies too. But yeah, Video-games take a disproportionate amount of the blame.
He doesn't care about video games, he cares about the NRA and wants to shift the blame. That's all.
Quite easy to see through, but the media is jumping on that train like the stupid little puppies they are.
But hey, who am i kidding. Its not like they write what they truly believe in, they write accordingly to their agenda and if political or financial interests are at play it can make one look very stupid.
Like this Dude: Jeremy Bailenson
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/05/opinions/video-games-shooting-opinion-bailenson/index.html
Lets all blame video games for violence outbursts of a view psychopaths, because obviously if you want to train your shooting skills you use a video game instead of training on an shooting range with your perfectly legal firearm.
"There is at least one documented case of a killer using a first-person shooter game to improve his combat skills."
What about the 863 million undocumented cases of normal people training themselves to be SUPERSOLDIERS and roam the world freely without running amok?
Also...documented case? What does that even mean?
"Anders Breivik told the court in 2012 that he used "a holographic aiming device" in the game "Call of Duty" to develop his target acquisition abilities. "
So he had formulated murderous intent in his mind and then he played a little Call of Duty.
That's correlation at best, far from causation.
And even if the game "helped" him to develop his target acquisition, that is totally unrelated to the reason he developed his murderous intend in the first place. Classic blame shifting.
There is no argument here.
Its flinging diarrhea at the wall in the hope something sticks.
The only thing that sticks out is the amount of stupidity of the author, and the amount of stupidity he thinks the reader has to swallow that shit.
President Donald Trump
Strauss Zelnick, chief executive of Take-Two
Robert Altman, the CEO of ZeniMax (parent company of Bethesda), Trump’s brother Robert Trump serves on the board of ZeniMax but might not attend
Michael Gallagher - Entertainment Software Association head
Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo., and Brent Bozell, founder of the Parents Television Council, Media Research Center
Mostly old games.
No music.
No real skill.
Terrible editing.
I rate it 3/10 and i am feeling generous today.
Much better montage
To the poster above with the Far Cry pic, lol, that's pretty funny
Problem is that the UK does have terrorist attacks, guns are outlawed and so are hand grenades but that doesn't stop them because criminals are criminals, France also has strict gun laws and they have frequent terrorist hunting raids and troops in the streets. There may not be many school shootings there, but they have a lot of terrorist sleeper cells. Google Bataclan massacre and tell me laws keep you safe...
In regards to video games, I think it is a catalyst, or should be looked at with psychological studies, and I do think some video games go too far in the blood and gore department, is it really necessary to see things soldiers get PTSD from in war? No.
I think it is mostly schools and how kids are raised, also TV has rotten their brains along with social media and the corrosion of families. Most of these kids that do things like that are already whacked and their parents know they have guns, violent video games etc.
I think it is stupid that they want a 21 years of age limit, what's that gonna do to another Steven Paddock? Politicians are dull. Trucks should be banned too if we go to extremes. SMHO
Also the second amendment doesn't say anything about ammunition, perhaps they could regulate those turning the arms into bb guns.
On topic, I can see how graphic depictions of violence in society can desensitise some people. Though firing guns in a video game shouldn't encourage a player to buy into the real deal.
Yes, criminals can access them but they do for a purpose. Mr Normalton suddenly going off the rails doesn't have a gun. nor knows where to get one. And I'd love to keep it that way.
Regardless. The answer has NEVER been "lets legalise guns".
I've seen a few things with americans talking about how unsafe it must be over here lately. I dunno whats going on over there lately, some kinda of brainwashing media scare about guns and free health services.
The lack of guns on the streets and the NHS are 2 of the best things about this country imo.
Anyway. Sorry. Back to games.....
Nevermind. I've done this arguement too many times before. Its old...
While our terrorists are mostly home grown, we have less than Europe does, mostly because they can just walk right over to Europe or disguise themselves in a sea of refugees (Intelligence agencies know they do, and ISIS themselves said so too). Thankfully after obliterating ISIS the rate of terror attacks has gone down here, but they are getting pushed into Europe... Terror attacks in Europe are actually rising. I am just saying that grenades are illegal, and terrorists know how to get them and don't care if they are illegal, laws don't protect people when it comes to criminals, a law is punishment after an innocent person is hurt. There are 350 million people here, they cant be controlled and if they did then that would be terrifying, someone is always going to lose their nut, all it takes is one person to unfortunately ruin everything.
Anyways, yeah, I think video games while they might not be the real problem need to be looked into, a lot of these crazy people that commit shootings play violent video games. Like don't give your 5 year old GTA 5! its mostly a parenting problem and our culture is falling apart because we glorify criminals and violence, sex, drugs... have you watched TV in America??? Some of this stuff is WHACKED
EDIT: There is a reason I only watch British TV haha, it isn't filled with the garbage we have here
Interesting 'Gun Related Homicide' stat comparison which I think adds further clarity too the discussion:
America's gun culture in 10 charts
How does the US compare with other countries?
About 40% of Americans say they own a gun or live in a household with one, according to a 2017 survey, and the rate of murder or manslaughter by firearm is the highest in the developed world. There were more than 11,000 deaths as a result of murder or manslaughter involving a firearm in 2016.
As for violent game accessibility, military/scify/fantasy shooters in particular, the ESRB system is woefully inadequate when taking into account methods of choice available for purchasing content online also in my opinion I'd doubt the white house will table and/or introduce measures that may detrimentally impact annual revenues.
After all lets be honest for a minute, the mighty $ rules any rumination/debate where there's potential for political capital too be made...or not at the end of day.
and for those who can't be bothered to watch/think it's just another comedian, his points are incredibly succinct:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)
The Port Arthur massacre is possibly the largest mass murder committed with a firearm on the planet, and at the time of that comedy show, hadn't been beaten (it may have since then).
In the 18 years before it, there were 12 other mass shootings, though far smaller in scale. And after Port Arthur, the Australian government said "no more guns!" and there hasn't been a mass shooting in Australia in the 19 years since then.
I fact, in every developed nation in the world that has suffered mass shootings, and then banned guns, the number of mass shootings has since dropped to almost zero. And the amount of gun related crime has dropped proportionally too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/83a7ww/guns_vs_videogames_this_took_me_10_minutes_to/
There is absolutely no correlation between video games and violent crime. There is however, a direct correlation between firearms and violent crime. The fact that this is even still debated at this point is beyond a joke.
The comedian is absolutely correct in the way he frames the issue. In America after Sandy Hook, your government said "maaaaybe we should outlaw the big guns?" and half the population went "FUCK YOU DON'T TAKE MY GUNS!". And interestingly the same thing happened when the government tried to take your slaves away too, and even more interestingly, the same arguments were used to try to keep them.
Something to think about at least.
I don't know where the slaves argument fits into this; that is a whole different argument.
Gun violence will never stop; there is gun violence is countries that don't have a right to bear arms. Where there is people there is violence; it's not right, but that is human beings born in sin.
The points you seem to be missing are:
1. "You can't change the second amendment", fuck yes you can, it's called an amendment for a reason.
2. you just contradicted yourself, first you say that it takes an image of violence to influence someone, and then went on to say that it's simply people being 'born in sin' (as ridiculous as that statement alone is) which is enough for people to be violent.
3. the connection to slavery is: people used to argue that having slaves was their 'god given right' and that taking that away would be a hugely terrible thing, neither of those things are true and ever have been.
The single line from the whole show that makes the most sense to me is this: All of the arguments for owning a gun are bullshit, with the exception of one: "I like guns".