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Are there good employment opportunities for a low poly 3D artist? (without sculpting)

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For the last year or so I've been making animations with maya and modelling small characters, nothing serious, but I've really enjoyed it. In the past I learnt to paint a bit and programmed some games but now I kind of want to make a concrete decision to move from a hobbyist to someone actually pursuing a professional level of expertise in something.

One role I've been considering is as a 3D artist for games. However, when I research what new talent/rookies in the industry are producing and what is popular on more industry oriented sights like Artstation, the dominant style seems to detailed high poly sculpts with lower poly re-topology and realistic painting and lighting. Realistic soldiers covered in dust seem to be a favourite too. Often the texturing seems not to have been done by hand but instead using programs like substance painter. Unfortunately the work I've been producing doesn't really match this at all.

I really like a super simplified low poly style, artists like http://simplecg.tumblr.com/ or http://www.kennethfejer.com/3d.html or whoever did the image at the bottom of my post, most things in the giant <1000 triangle thread on these forums. Basically, this is the kind of work I would like to produce: low poly hand modelled and painted characters or props. I'm not entirely a purist or anything like that, I'm not against projecting ambient occlusion onto a mesh for painting or even using sculpting to create details, but the stuff I like to create is much simpler and more stylised in general. I wouldn't mind learning to sculpt from just an interest point of view, but the highly detailed characters and environments that seem to be the standard for 'industry' work fill me with little excitement. To be clear, I'm not complaining that this style is dominant, or that there is a problem with it. I just want to be informed as to whether it is this kind of stuff that makes up the majority of available industry work before I commit a lot of time and energy to pursuing professional aspirations.

In summary: "Is there a reasonable amount of work available for 3D artists focussed on low polygon/stylised assets? Is it possible to make a living without producing highly realistic detailed characters from sculpts?"

Thank you for reading. I'm grateful for any advice.




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  • PixelMasher
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    as long as the 3ds and mobile games are around there will always be lowpoly or stylized work availiable. But even nowdays a lot of mobile games still use normal maps and stuff derived from highpoly sculpts and baked down, even if the art style is heavily stylized. look at overwatch, those characters are heavily stylized, but still were created with the high to low workflow. 

    being familiar and comfortable with that workflow would only benefit you as an artist, and greatly increase your chances of finding a job. Just focus on becoming the best artist you can be, and create work in the art style of places you would actually want to work at. sit down and do like 6 hours of research on various studios and games that appeal to you and then come up with a plan by reverse engineering everything you can find out about how that studio works.

    the transition from hobbyist to professional artist can be hard, you are going to have to massivley increase your output in most cases and apply patience and long term thinking, as in "if i keep at this, i might be able to get a job 2 years from now". not always the case, but more often than not. Know what you are getting yourself into and commit hard if you think it's right for you :)
  • slosh
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    I think there is a place for handpainted low poly but it is a very small niche in gaming.  You could certainly land a gig at a place like blizzard working on WOW which is probably one of the better known, more stable games still using low poly hand painted art.  At the same time, even artists who specialize in this have taken the time to learn zbrush to increase their knowledge base.  If you look at a lot of stylized art, it still starts with sculpting and then handpainting a low poly model based off of a bake from the sculpt.  If you really want to increase your chances of getting a job, I would try to learn zbrush so that you are more well rounded.  That Krililin is awesome btw!  If you have more, I would love to see it!
  • JordanN
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    With Nintendo's latest handheld having a Tegra GPU, I feel like the baseline for low poly is nearing an end. What I mean to say is that low poly art wont die, but I wont be surprised if the old way of just modeling and painting diffuse textures will become more niche. I even remember seeing a job ad for Gamefreak (makers of Pokemon) and even they want artists with experience starting from the PS3/360 and up. 

    Don't let this stop your dreams however. It's just something to think about.
  • pangaea
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    You could try to create a game itself if your going for such a niche look.  FNAF dev seem to do well even through his art style is really weird. Shovel Knight is also a good example of old style being used successful. 

    Some of the new high end smartphones have even more impressive GPU than Nintendo Switch. The iPhone X Apple A11 Bionic is really powerful. Either way unless there is massive nostalgia for low poly it is probably going to die.

    It would be interesting if someone brings Zelda OOT or Majora Mask look to PC. Maybe there is a gap in the market for that, sort of like there was a gap in a market that Stardew Valley addressed.
  • bigdeku
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    slosh said:
    That Krililin is awesome btw!  If you have more, I would love to see it!
    I have lots more by the same artist. I have no idea who they are but I collected a whole gallery of their work here: https://tinyurl.com/y6vwkwgu Enjoy!

    slosh said:
    I think there is a place for handpainted low poly but it is a very small niche in gaming.  You could certainly land a gig at a place like blizzard working on WOW which is probably one of the better known, more stable games still using low poly hand painted art. 

    Yeah, I would love a job making assets for blizzard, but it's probably not a good idea to pin my entire career on one company and one game.

    slosh said:
     If you look at a lot of stylized art, it still starts with sculpting and then handpainting a low poly model based off of a bake from the sculpt. 
    Do you have any examples of artists who you would describe as doing stylised or simplified work who use sculpting and retopology in their workflow?
  • bigdeku
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    Thanks for the replies. I guess the reason I like the low poly painted style is its quickness to communicate and produce stuff and I also really enjoy painting models and just painting and drawing in general, it feels grounded in a way. Whereas when I've tried sculpting and when I model, it feels so artificial to me. I suppose the prospect of spending two weeks or so on a single character model (which seems to be a sort of average based on my research) is really discouraging. Going through sculpting, modelling, retopologising, cleaning up normal maps, painting, adding shaders etc. with a host of different interfaces and programs to learn. Whereas I feel the immediacy of painting, (and having one or two centralised tools) or being able to use a simplistic 3D style to get a character through the modelling --> texturing --> rigging process in a few hours and have something that moves and expresses really exciting.

    being familiar and comfortable with that workflow would only benefit you as an artist, and greatly increase your chances of finding a job. Just focus on becoming the best artist you can be, and create work in the art style of places you would actually want to work at. 
    I totally agree. I'm probably just whining, apologies for that, I will endeavour to learn some sculpting but I guess I'll have to rethink whether 3D asset work is really a good idea as a career goal. I just really want to figure out a concrete goal, something that aim towards and produce, which is easier said than done...

    In any case, it's useful to know that I'll probably have to adjust my work expectations for the low poly aspect of my art but there's always painting and 2D assets / concept art to look into. Of course, it seems like the opportunities for those professions aren't great either, but from the sounds of this thread they are doing better than traditional low poly art!

    JordanN said:
    With Nintendo's latest handheld having a Tegra GPU
    Forgive my ignorance but how does this impact low poly? Is it just that its a high powered GPU so there's no point is doing things the old way, or is there something explicitly changing in the way technology works that makes doing things the old way undesirable? (Like they're removing diffuse textures and bringing in a whole new system?)

    pangaea said:
    You could try to create a game itself if your going for such a niche look.  FNAF dev seem to do well even through his art style is really weird. Shovel Knight is also a good example of old style being used successful. 

    Some of the new high end smartphones have even more impressive GPU than Nintendo Switch. The iPhone X Apple A11 Bionic is really powerful. Either way unless there is massive nostalgia for low poly it is probably going to die.

    It would be interesting if someone brings Zelda OOT or Majora Mask look to PC. Maybe there is a gap in the market for that, sort of like there was a gap in a market that Stardew Valley addressed.
    Yeah, the more research it seems like it might be best to keep this stuff as a niche interest and build it up independently rather than trying to get a job. I'm sure there's a market for this style of 3D art... or at least... I hope there is! lol
  • JordanN
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    bigdeku said:
    Forgive my ignorance but how does this impact low poly? Is it just that its a high powered GPU so there's no point is doing things the old way, or is there something explicitly changing in the way technology works that makes doing things the old way undesirable? (Like they're removing diffuse textures and bringing in a whole new system?)
    If you get technical, then it can be a bit of both. Before Switch, Nintendo handhelds were fundamentally weak and couldn't handle the same game engines used on consoles/PC, so we did see a lot more games that intentionally went with a low poly artstyle. 

    But now that they caught up to PS4/XB1 (although still being weaker than both), the incentives for making two different games like in the past is no longer as big, as developers will just turn down certain settings and port the same game to Switch.
  • pangaea
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    pangaea polycounter lvl 5
    https://80.lv/articles/the-strings-of-environment-design/

    On concept art the use of Zbrush is becoming more common. Feng Zhu tells student to learn it in there second term. If you look at Vitaly Bulgarov maybe concept art is going in that direction. 
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