How to make Samurai Armor lacings in Zbrush?

RaihanDaniswara · Jan 2018

Hello, i am new to this forum. and i am also new to Zbrush, recently i have been working on a Project regarding Historically Accurate Samurai armors.

I wanted to make variations of different type each, now one of them however, seems rather "decorative"

I planned to make an Armor with this style of lacing.

Image: https://gyazo.com/49df73639a2363444360a5435af70320.png

https://gyazo.com/49df73639a2363444360a5435af70320

As you see it is a horizontal line of lacing, I was wondering whether i should use Nanomesh or IMM? i tried IMM and it didn't seem to go well for me.

I have already made the lacings mesh, however i could not find any tutorial\guide covering on making something simmiliar to this style of lacing as shown in the picture.

If anyone can help, i would highly appreciate it.

Thank you

Axi5 · Jan 2018

That's very low resolution reference, can you find a higher quality image with what you're after?

Not a Zbrush user but I would have imagined IMM would have done the trick. Someone more experienced than me might offer more advice on where it went wrong

RaihanDaniswara · Jan 2018

http://www.kyohaku.go.jp/jp/img/syuzou/meihin/kin/item05a.jpg

Would this picture suffice? Finding pictures of this type of armor with higher quality is a bit difficult. ones that shows the lacings and such anyways.

Edit: This is the best i can find.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/54/c6/b3/54c6b3399960f225d4c2443f6e0d6375.jpg

What i am trying to do is to make a Gapless line of laces, since using IMM gives me gaps, and sometimes renders the Lace sizes inconsistent.

universe · Jan 2018

It is really hard to say what should it look like depending on those images but would try to use IMM on a plane and GrabAlpha to create alpha image from that and I would use noisemaker to attach those things to parts of an armour. Otherwise You can sculpt them and then grab alpha.

cryrid · Jan 2018

'kiritsuke / Kiritsuke kozane / hon kozane'' all seem to give some better search results. Example:

To me there seems to be two main components: the plates and the laces that hold them together. It might be worth spending some time drawing them out in order to mentally isolate exactly what you're seeing, but the whole thing should turn into a pretty simple pattern that repeats itself as long as needed across a surface.

You could probably build an IMM brush that includes both the plates (with a hole for the lace) and the lace, even using Tri-Parts so that the ends of the armor have a cap and the middle seamlessly repeats itself. Maybe include a few columns of lace in the middle section with some slight variation on each one. Then you'd just need to have some kind of proxy geometry to draw your plates across.

If you're aiming for ultimate accuracy (say for something educational rather than something for a videogame), then you might have to break it up so that you use IMM to create the plates first, then a separate IMM to do the lace so that a single one can weave in and out of different plates/holes.

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Edit: Here is a site that goes more into the construction of such armor. You could get a better idead of what the hon kozane plates look like, what the lace has to do, as well as learn a few more terms to search for for even better reference.

SebastianBielecki · Jan 2018

I would sculpt the plates first, dividing them into that many polys as you want those laces to appear, then i would use nanomesh on each of those polys inserting the lace mesh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLcbk4IaBK4

RaihanDaniswara · Jan 2018

Hey everyone! Thank you so much for the feedback!, especially you Cryid!

So i took your advice at the, making the plates together with the kozane, and i must admit! this was way smarter than i tought,

with that said,

here is the result.

https://gyazo.com/3234d8e2ea50c626724e7fe7d4eb52f1

How to make Samurai Armor lacings in Zbrush?

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