Weapons Modeling Thread 2018

LaurentiuN

First of all Happy New Year guys!!!

I decided to model some weapons for my portfolio and maybe adding them for sale later, for unity and UE4 marketplace maybe.
I`m not doing full interior shells, so yeah will see how this goes.

I will be using this thread for all the weapons so here we go!

First model it`s S&W SD9VE pistol.



And here is what i have so far. ( not yet smooth and interior not very accurate, not seen in-game anyway.



Thanks!

Maxilator

Edges looks very hard, I'm not familiar with hard surface modeling in zbrush but i think some people use the uniform polish under deformation to get their rounded edges.

LaurentiuN

@Maxilator
Yeah i know, i saied that above that is not smooth yet:)

LaurentiuN

Some more work. Doing the magazine now.

LaurentiuN

Almost all parts are done, next dynamesh, smooth and building the low poly.

LaurentiuN

First smooth pass, i need make a bake test to see if its smooth enough. What do you guys think ?

LaurentiuN

Added bolts and the rest of accessories, also guys i have some question about legal stuff if you are kind to answer.

As you can see in the picture below i have added the S&W text, if i want to sell the gun should i delete that text or any other logos that are on the original model?
And should i change the name of the gun to ? 
How do you guys handle this things ?

Thanks!

Thanez

You generally don't need to testbake to see if your edges are smooth enough, just view the model at the same size and angle(s) it would be in game. If your edges are represented well, they'll represented well. Looks good to me, man.

I've seen trademark lawsuits where they sue over either logo, trademark or silhouette similarity. The only way to completely avoid a potential lawsuit is to design your own weapons. 
Generally a lawsuit starts out as a cease and desist though so I would do a trademarked one. If that gets heat, comply with their demands and say sorry. I would like to hear others' thoughts on this though.

LaurentiuN

@Thanez, thanks man, you are right about the edges. 
Now about the legal stuff, what if i change the design a little, maybe 20 % and add some sci-fi design to it, but not to sci-fi, because i still want this to look like a real gun. Should that work without problems? And also adding my own text and logos.

cromadbomber

Is this Fusion 360? Looking very nice.

LaurentiuN

@cromadbomber, thanks dude, it`s 3ds max and Zbrush.

Thanez

On Copyright and Trademark I can only speak to our local laws. Make sure to read up on yours to see what you can and can't get away with.

Here I can get away with pretty much anything because while Copyright laws are boring, they grant me some protections. Derivative works such as pictures, paintings, games and video are protected as long as my product doesn't directly compete with theirs.
Trademark laws are pretty strict. They made their logo, so they get to deny me usage of their logo.
Both laws protect me in that they'll have to first give me a cease and desist order, and I will have x amount of weeks to comply.

Hypothetical: I can make a 100% accurate model of an iphone, slap a glock logo on it and sell it. Apple can't sue me for likeness of their phone because in making it, the model is more mine than it is theirs, and they don't sell 3d models. Derivative wins. Glock can however sue me for using their logo after and if I don't comply to the cease and desist.
If Apple and Glock then go into a model selling co-branding deal and start selling a product similar to mine, I would have to cease and desist unless I wanted to lose in court.

Real world example: H&K sued some airsoft manufacturers over copyright (design, form) and trademark (logos and markings) . They lost the copyright suit cause H&K don't sell airsoft, but won the trademark one. Now only officially licenced H&K products (like Umarex) can use the H&K logo. Ironically, Umarex pistols are the worst on the market.

Your laws may vary, take care.

LaurentiuN

Thanks for help @Thanez, probably i will make some sci-fi weapons in the end. I will wait a bit as well to see what happens with the unreal marketplace. Also if i use this gun only for my portfolio should`t be any problem right ?

Thanez

s1dK said:

if i use this gun only for my portfolio should`t be any problem right ?

I can't see how that would ever be a problem, but I don't know your laws m8

LaurentiuN

Hi guys,
I have finished the low poly and did the baking. 6335 tris. Next texturing

cromadbomber

Sweet. Very clean topo aswel!

LaurentiuN

Texturing and beauty shots done. Next weapon!

LaurentiuN

Working on the first weapon, silhouette.

LaurentiuN

Blocking out and refine some shapes.

LaurentiuN

Silencer HP done, small details will be added from Substance when i get there:).

LaurentiuN

More work on the high poly, what do you guys think? What should i change/add? Any C&C is welcome.
Thanks!

LaurentiuN

I have remade the grip after some feedback. Old and new.
What do you guys think?

LaurentiuN

@JoshuaG Thanks dude

Just finished the low and the bake:) 

LaurentiuN

Texturing and beauty shots done. Next weapon!

rexo12

Nice! Scope looks a bit weird though, too big/blocky and the purple is throwing me off.

LaurentiuN

@rexo12 Thanks for C&C dude, i`ll keep that in mind on my next weapons.
Here is a pistol that i`m working on, still need to add some details on the grip.
WIP`s

LaurentiuN

High poly done, and some beauty renders!

LaurentiuN

Low poly + textures are done and some beauty renders.
More screens on my artstation. https://www.artstation.com/massconfusion