Dice of Pirates - Carrying Tin

Stinkhorse

The team has shuffled it's priorities and the play mat is on the back burner while a few other higher priority fires are put out. First up is the design for Dice of Pirates aluminum, altoids-style, carrying tin. The general theme of DoP that I've been pushing is pirates being the punk rocks of the sea, so everything gets a dash of leather and rivets. The pair go together quiet well.

Some things that still need to happen include getting some hand painted reflections on the metal, and figuring out how to get some more pop between the logo and the background.  Eventually this thing is going to be embossed so that has to factor into my solutions.

Color isn't my strongest suit so if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears.
 

EVF

looking nice, have you considered a black outline on the "pirates"?
also maybe widening the bones, "pirates" and flag?
how does it look if the bones overlap the edges? unless those pyramids will be embossed...

Stinkhorse

The studs and many other elements are going to be embossed, but I'm already working on a second pass that will reduce the total number of them. The Logo itself is finalized however, as it needs to fit the same footprint as Dice of Crowns' logo.

RN

Stinkhorse said:

figuring out how to get some more pop between the logo and the background.

You can play with different types of contrast: contrast of lightness (how bright things are), contrast of chroma (how vibrant or colourful things are) and contrast of hue (giving elements different hues based on some structured hue combinations).

Stinkhorse

Thanks for the link @RN I'll put that to use when I start the paint over of the concept I got approval on tonight.

Stinkhorse

Ok, this briefly took back seat to a rushed concept, but I think the wood is now finished. Time to start on the metal.

Stinkhorse

And updated with a first pass at the iron metal bands. I'm really outside of my wheel house on these so if anyone has some suggestions I'm totally interested in hearing them.

Stinkhorse

ANd here it is with the logo. I know I need to punch the lighting up, and the yellow of the primary light needs to skew more red to match up with the under-light on the cross bones. Someone did mention that I should punch the lighting up and I will look into how to do that. If anyone has any ideas I'm listening.

RN

Hi. I like the painterly wood texture and the metal side parts. Nice going!
If it's going to be printed on a real physical object, talk to your team about making a mask out of those metal parts and the titles, and using them for a coat of "spot varnish" on these parts (the "spot" part is important, it means only specific parts of the object get this effect) -- let real light make it look like metal.
http://www.swallowtailprint.co.uk/news/articles/post/59-when-to-use-uv-varnish

Two feelings I had when looking at the latest version:
- The PIRATES word in the title has less readability than the words DICE OF, which have brighter colour and outlines. I would personally make the PIRATES word shiny golden (edit: similar to this), but with the same outline effect as DICE for consistency.
- The background of the subtitle ("Roll the bones, fight yer mates" etc.) feels out of place among the other elements. It's a flat colour with some straight edges, it's missing the same attention you gave everything else.

Stinkhorse

Awesome suggestions RN! I'll definitely be asking about the varnish. We were already talking about having embossed studs in the metal that have no color and thus have the tin's natural aluminum reactivity to them. Getting the same effect on the black iron would be an awesome addition.

The logo itself is fairly locked down at this point, but I'll look into ways to get the text to stand out some.

And you're totally right about the subtitle, I really haven't updated it since I started updating the background wood and it really needs that update. I'm thinking of giving it the impression that it's burned into the wood at the moment, but I promise it's going to get some love.

Stinkhorse

Ok, tacked on tagline aside, this end of the tin is done. I've gotta get rolling on the bottom and sides.

Stinkhorse

Ok, back of the tin is coming along. It might be finished, earlier than I'd like as deadlines are getting moved.

EVF

looking nice! some sea water wear maybe? one or two of this little shells that hook onto the immersed part of a boat body?

Olingova

EVF said:

looking nice! some sea water wear maybe? one or two of this little shells that hook onto the immersed part of a boat body?

I definitely agree Mayeb even seaweed on the bottom. Really nice work anyway

Stinkhorse

That's an excellent idea @EVF
I started trying it out to see how fast I could implement it, but unfortunately the deadline hammer is coming down tonight.



I'll definetly keep this idea in the pocket going forward.

EVF

awesome work anyway! please post pics of the tin once done !
And I like what u did there with these shells

Stinkhorse

Thanks, and will do. I might be able to do some of the effect here, I'm negotiating for more time.

EVF

good news! @Stinkhorse

Stinkhorse

Sweet I got an extension! The first order of business is to map the lighting from the top of the tin to the bottom for the label wrap. The second is to try and get some water stain and barnacles on to it.

Stinkhorse

Made some progress tonight getting the lighting updated. The wood is just about done. The metal still needs a pass.

zachvance

That's looking really slick, dood! The lighting really sets it off. You're making me want to go back and do some painted textures again. Looking forward to more updates (and more barnacles)!

Stinkhorse

Thanks @zachvance
Barnacles are coming next now that I've got the lighting added to the sides

Stinkhorse

And the team vetoed barnacles in favor of the cleaner look. At this point the current image is done pending a print test to see how well it applies to a physical tin.

EVF

@Stinkhorse going to look awesome anyway! a job well done