3DS Max 2018 - Sluggish UI and UV Editor
polycounter lvl 11
Hey everyone,
I upgraded to 2018 a few months ago but only recently had the time to get in and work on some projects. While i'm finding it more stable than say, 2017, I'm having problems with sluggish UI and UV Editors. I've got some GIFs to highlight what I'm getting at. Apologies if they're too large for the forums, let me know and I'll reduce their size.
UI - Mainly with the Subtools, an Objects base Edit Poly is really sluggish but the modifier is much faster as can be seen. Not really a major issue but would be neat if I could fix it -
I did find this, but the solution offered hasn't worked for me: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/very-slow-menus-in-max-2018/td-p/7096480
UV Editor - It's very sluggish when I'm moving shells around, and frequently locks up as if it's about to crash:
I realise this could be down to a large number of things, but I was hoping someone here may have experienced similar and found a solution to it. Any help is massively appreciated, and let me know if you need more information. I'll do my best to provide.
I upgraded to 2018 a few months ago but only recently had the time to get in and work on some projects. While i'm finding it more stable than say, 2017, I'm having problems with sluggish UI and UV Editors. I've got some GIFs to highlight what I'm getting at. Apologies if they're too large for the forums, let me know and I'll reduce their size.
UI - Mainly with the Subtools, an Objects base Edit Poly is really sluggish but the modifier is much faster as can be seen. Not really a major issue but would be neat if I could fix it -
I did find this, but the solution offered hasn't worked for me: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/very-slow-menus-in-max-2018/td-p/7096480
UV Editor - It's very sluggish when I'm moving shells around, and frequently locks up as if it's about to crash:
I realise this could be down to a large number of things, but I was hoping someone here may have experienced similar and found a solution to it. Any help is massively appreciated, and let me know if you need more information. I'll do my best to provide.
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(Now I understand that this doesn't directly help you with your issue ... but, adopting a conservative approach to software upgrades definitely does prevent that kind of stuff from happening too often.)
Good luck.
@Dash-POWER
No worries, like I said, it's not actually a major deal breaker for me, just frustrating. Its fast enough to not be called completely broken and and slow enough to be irritating.
if you use 2017/2018 on windows 10 with nvidia cards update to 384.76+ drivers which should fix viewport freezes and maybe other issues.
if you use Nvidia cards never install Geforce Experience, it's been known to cause issues for some 3ds max users.
if your using nvidia then in power management set to 'prefer max performance'
if you use a wacom sometimes turning off 'use windows ink' helped me.
I'm on Windows 10 with an AMD R9 390, and an AMD FX 8350, so the Nvidia problems are ruled out for me. Power management I did actually try but had no success.
I do use a Wacom, but I don't always have it plugged in. I'll give that an experiment tonight, thanks!
Did all the usual stuff, fresh win10 install, fresh max install, latest nvidia drivers without Geforce experience, power plan to high performance but nothing helps.
http://area.autodesk.com/blogs/the-3ds-max-blog/3ds-max-20182-update
Like Pior pointed out, it's best to wait a cycle or so while Autodesk irons out their bugs. Surprised the OP couldn't install older versions, subscription comes with 3 versions IIRC.
There is a thread in Autodesk Forums where this topic is being discussed and it seems it is related somehow to the Power Management in windows. Switch to performance mode or tweak around there and see if that helps. At least one user in the Autodesk forums had it solved with that. I have to say that for me it does not fix anything but maybe for others it will. Sorry for not providing the right link, can't find it right now. I think you have to reboot every time you mess with things there.
What I do to kinda fix it is get rid of the Command panel and use the modeling ribbon from the top. It works much faster and in the end it has most of the stuff I need. I have my command panel assigned to V key for those things that are exclusive there.
Hope that helps a bit.
In my case, having the Command Panel extended to more than one column introduced a lot of slowness when working with sub-objects (or most anything that causes the command panel to refresh). I'm on an ultrawide screen so a wider command panel that showed more made a lot of sense. I was at a 3x column and even at a 2x column you start to see instant slowdown. Just resizing the command panel increased speed of switching among sub-objects significantly:
Good news for 2019 owners is this was addressed in Max 2019.3:
source
Of course I'm not and Autodesk will fix this for me never. Instead, I just got another excuse to stop using the command panel so much and start relying more on hotkeys, quad menus, and amazing add-ons like RappaTools and Zorb's Modifier Modifier to manage my stack.
Alternatively you could make your command panel one really long column, which works for some reason *shrug*
Hope this helps someone!
I was trying to find info about this "mode 5", but to no avail. Are you able to shed more light on this topic and how 2020 speeds things up?
thanks!
By default, it uses "mode 5". NO need to do anything. Just update to 2020.
Hey guys, just a little update on this issue.
I started having the same sluggish Command Menu all of a sudden on my 3dsmax 2021 and none of the above things helped with it. I'm talking the simplest select deselect is taking 2 - 3 seconds, not to mention switching between the create and modify tabs in the menu.
For me, the solution was to navigate to the workspaces in the top right corner, and switch from the default mode, to something like the modular-mini.
It fixed the issue instantly and the speed is back as well. Almost as though the command menu needs a restart once in a while...
Credit to the user above that suggested turning off the command menu completely and using the ribbon to model, that worked for me too for narrowing down the issue.
Let me know if this works for you guys!