How does front paging work?
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Im wondering since this thread http://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2561978#Comment_2561978
got to the frontpage.
even if its entertaining to some, most people here seems to feel that its not front page worthy. and because of this, the thread was derailed, which is of no benefit to the thread creator.
how does it work? can anyone front page stuff? or just mods?
got to the frontpage.
even if its entertaining to some, most people here seems to feel that its not front page worthy. and because of this, the thread was derailed, which is of no benefit to the thread creator.
how does it work? can anyone front page stuff? or just mods?
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If someone wants to make a thread without actual relation to the things treated here General Discussion exists for that reason, but I don't think joke posts should be the first thing to see when visiting PC.
I vote for some king of system where you can + a thread to be in the front page and after a number of upvotes the mods can decide if it's worth of it or not.
also, for me, the people who strive for polycount to be this cool club with inside jokes and what not, are basically shitting on all the super nice knowledge that can be found here. come on, this is by far the best place i found to learn about 3d and gameart, but i dont want to have to filter away a bunch of irrelevant "jokes" and people trying to use this as a social place. cant you use the slack or facebook for that?
Polycount is a community, and communities are social.
This is said assuming that the OP of that thread was trolling, but even if that isn't the case, the tone of the thread that followed and the reason why it was given a front-page slot still make it true.
I dont really think its about what actually happened, but more of the idea behind it.
front page can be a sign of approval to the community, a milestone to look up to, a sign that your final "good enough" for the industry to just name a few reasons.
that just kinda got shit upon by a random, arguably funny and/or mean joke.
I think this discussion is getting personal for a lot of people because the fact is, front page is serial business.
Serial business?
you heard me!
(that was my attempt to a joke btw, maybe it didnt work out)Sure, there's some little exposure to industry eyeballs. However this is first and foremost a community site, not an employment site. Any tiny exposure you get from our front page is so so minor compared to the actual scrutiny you get during a job application.
Or is there some other seriousness consideration I'm missing?
It also ups the chance of it getting shared on social media, and potentially increasing your exposure as an artist all around.
Why you're not getting any replies
what bothers me a lot, is that i have to have this super boring, cringy, kids club inside jokes showed into my attention when i visit this site. its not like seeing that stuff in general, cuz if you dont like it, you dont have to browse general. but since the content of the front page for the most part is really inspiring and useful, i cant afford not to look at it.
this feels like you are inconsiderate. you, mods, decided what to show in my daily polycount newsfeed, in a place i look everytime i visit the site, and you tell me to not take it too seriously?
poor analogy;
shitty stand up comedian stands on in a busy city square, yelling poor jokes with a megaphone. when people complain, he tells them not to take it to seriously.
its not the content, its the intrusion that is the annoying part, that you decide that this thing, that give you a slight chuckle, is worthy of mine and everybody else s attention.
@stickadtroja, I see that you are still taking this matter so seriously:
Are you jealous , do you feel like your work is good but is being overlooked and deserves to be featured enough? That some work is inferior to yours and should be featured instead?
And I think you need to differentiate between front page and monthly feature. Front page is really not a guarantee that you will be in a monthly feature , so front page features come and go , funny threads , good art , tutorials whatever.
As far as I'm concerned , you can make something good , and get on the front page and get positive attention
Or you can make something stupid that people will sneer at , laugh , get on the front page and get negative attention or something they will remember you by and can't take you seriously.
Just hunker down and make something , whether a stupid threads lands on the front page really shouldn't be your concern.
EDIT : this post made me become an interpolator. doot doot.
For instance, if the PC frontpage is supposed to be a place where great work is shown and a spot where industry professionals can come in search for talent then of course lolposts don't fit. But if it is more of an "anything goes" kind of place, then so be it. But it might be worth being more clear about that because the less clear things are, the more likely it is for the audience to lose interest. Because the content will undoubtedly drift from their expectations, whatever these expectations may be.
Also thread thumbnails.
Fun game; load up the front page of DeviantArt right now, and count how many naked anthropomorphic animals and/or Sonic OCs show up.
Hi everyone! It's me! The downfall of Polycount, the vile criminal mastermind who dared commit this heinous crime to the most holy of frontpages: sharing something that made me laugh.
Here we are, in the burned rubble of what was once Polycount, picking through the 'bu-bu but what about my work' posts and 'u guys this isn't perfessional'.
Here are some helpful explanations for when your post hasn't been frontpaged:
-No moderators saw it.
-No members saw it.
-No moderators liked it enough to bring it to the attention of the masses.
-No members liked it enough to bring it to the attention of the moderators.
No matter which of these apply, please remember:
Nobody is owed a spot on the frontpage.
Nobody is owed a spot on the recap*.
Every moderator will have both their personal niche of work that they enjoy and want to shine a light on most, as well as too little time to look at every thread. If an appreciable amount of members bring a thread to our attention it'll certainly be frontpaged.
Remember that almost all of us are professional game artists, and choose to spend our free time moderating Polycount. While feedback is always welcomed, this 'how does it work?' nonsense is more than a little spineless.
It's clear that there's been a shift in the attitude on Polycount, both good and bad, but oh boy, I sure wish people's skin was thicker.
Special mention for @fuzzzzzz, who has managed to be personally offended that his Zbrush plugin wasn't frontpaged, as well as lamenting that 'polycount do not list this utility in the june recap'. Stay tuned for an update on the july recap re: his utility's inclusion!**
While I can appreciate @Joopson's point that it was mean to highlight it, I find it hard to take that thread seriously, so... I took it for the a joke. Try to do the same, or try to ignore one post.
Now, let's all go back to making art.
* which, get this: is made by one guy. If you were never featured, it's reasonable to infer he personally dislikes you!! Thankfully, the moderator team's tastes cover a wide range. We even let an animator on there! Which we all know to be the lesser art.
**He also called @pior a sublime tool, which, while a fine opinion, is still pretty hurtful, I'm sure. +1 this post for thoughts and prayers.
Do me a favour. Take a screenshot of every shitty post on the frontpage. Note how far apart they are. Post them here. Then I might engage you in a reasoned debate about the value of what we do, and the personal hardships you face at our inconsiderate hands.
to me it seems that the smallest common denominator for this community is the interest game art and games. isnt it smarter to have that, and only that on the front page? that way you please everybody, and you can still pm those hilarious jokes around to your friends.
I'm already browsing sites like 3dtotal or Artstation which I personally believe they exist to show you a collage of art.
Polycount is a forum based site, which has its pros and cons in relation to this. The pro being you get more content when you actually visit a thread, instead of just at the splash page. I also find the splash page to be on the unoptimized side even though I can browse something like Artstation (which shows more art running on my screen) just fine.