Could I please get some feedback on my work

zed99k1

Hi guys, i have been sculpting for about 4 months and i have been working on a character for about 2 of those 4 months (It's for my y12 major project). I would like to get some feedback on my work, some advice on how I can improve it and some advice on re topology.
Thank you

Here is my character and the concept (that i drew) which the character is based upon

slosh

My first advice to you is to do some anatomy studies.  Don't worry about making a character with armor yet.  Until you get a solid understanding of anatomy and proportion, making a full character isn't going to do you any good.  You don't have to throw out what you've done here, just take a step back.  Strip off the armor and start studying some anatomy and proportion to see where you've gone wrong.  Get a TON of real world ref and compare and start tweaking til it matches realistic reference.  Then come back and get more feedback from polycount.

zed99k1

thank you but I need to finish it in 4 weeks  and i don't think if i'll be able to finish it.

Brian "Panda" Choi

Dangnabit, it's homework . . .

Ok, if that's the case, you're gonna have to ram a lot of learning in a short amount of time.

As Slosh has said, right now your anatomical proportions are OFF.   Your leg proportions do not balance with the arm proportions, making your rabbit samurai seem top heavy.  Google for a human figure drawing proportion chart online, and notice how they measure most of the element lengths with "head lengths" usually.  Legs and arms are usually a certain head length long for average human, or even heroic, bodies.  There are other elements that are also not proportional like the feet, etc.

As with the armor, make sure you look into how samurai armor is constructed.  They're not generally plate based as one huge, formed sheets like medieval armor.  It's a lot of weaving and layering of plates.   Take note of real actual reference of existing samuai armor and notice their design patterns and what is share between them all.  It would help if you posted those references here so we can see what you're seeing while you're modeling.

It seems like youre in the block-in phase right now, so it is better to get these high level issues reslolved first before you commit to more detailss.  You can't fix bad silhoutte during the textuing phase: that's a modeling phase issue.

zed99k1

thank you   I'll try and if i manage to finish it will I be able to texture it without retopologizing the model? 

zed99k1

Here is what I'm looking at while i'm sculpting Brian 

Brian "Panda" Choi

You can texture it without retopologizing it, but it wouldn't be a game ready character, and would really run the risk of being animatable at all. 

If you don't want to show you can make a character asset that can be animated, that's fine, but that be the consequence you'd run into without some retopology. 

zed99k1

That's perfect because i don't need to animate it 

zed99k1

here is what i have done so far ( I used the head method and the proportion chart like you told me) 

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lotet

I think your getting fixated on the anatomy to a point where your missing the bigger picture; proportions.

I overlayed your sculpt and made a side by side comparison from a ref I googled.
the most obvious errors are the shorts legs, and shoulders are way to wide and blocky.

zed99k1

thank you guys   

Brian "Panda" Choi

Also, palms inwards.  Standard T/A Pose for characters is palms downwards.  And raise the arms, or you'll make riggers like me cry,

zed99k1

I think that i fixed the proportions. Did I fixed the problem or do I still need to fix it? 
 

zed99k1

I've made some more adjustments to the proportions (By looking at male skeletal structures like Teriyakistyle recommended). Should i still work on the proportions or should I move on to the anatomy?

Brian "Panda" Choi

Raise the arms, fix the forms of the feet, and move on.

Burpee

The fastest way to be " okay " at anatomy imo it's watching again and again this course  

https://gumroad.com/grassetti

the dude is a killer and he's explaining most of the key element in a short amount of time. 

gl ! 

zed99k1

thank you guys  

zed99k1

burpee I saw that the course is on Zbrush and I am working on blender. Should i still buy it?

Burpee

You should switch to zBrush if you want to work in the industry as a production artist, but this course is an approche to anatomy so even in Blender you can still improve ! 
( so yes buy it ! )

zed99k1

Yeah I know and I was already thinking of buying Z brush core but because I'm making a character for the first time I thought that I should start with basic tools (my graphics pad costed me like $35 AUD). By the way i already bought the tutorials ( they are really helpful thanks for recommending them to me)

Brian "Panda" Choi

Make sure there's an upgrade path from Core to Zbrush regular.  

zed99k1

Hi I'm still working on the character and I am blocking out the anatomy. I am following the tutorials that Burpee recommended me but I'm not sure if the back proportions are right.

Brian "Panda" Choi

Have you taken a look at your own butt and noticed how the crack is not that long and contiguous from neck to taint?

We  need more shots and better closeups.  Hard to see the details with just one image.  It helps us a lot better if there's multiple images and cloesups.

zed99k1

thanks for pointing that out 

Brian "Panda" Choi

Also different angles.   You can't just do one side, multiple shots.

zed99k1

ok 

Brian "Panda" Choi

Danke.

Same issue with the front.  There is no singular crevice coming from the collarbones to the mon pubis.  Also, the bottom of the ribcage doesn't go down that low from the pectoral muscles.

What reference are you using for your anatomy?

zed99k1

i'm using rafael grassetti's ecorche

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zed99k1

yeah (I'm still going trough it )

Tetranome

Grab some human photo reference too to see what all this stuff under the hood looks like in practice.
Also, don't mistake the changes in colour on your current reference for depth. That's where your extended butt crack was coming from.

zed99k1

thank you