Round edge shader for baking for substance, 3ds max

pointcache

Hello people i just heard that people started using round shader for baking normal maps on hard surface.
Since it would simplify the process greatly, i would like to use it as well, but i can't find any info about it.
Does anyone have links to share? Where to find such shader, what is the pipe?

Thank you.

jaker3278

I haven't heard of them at all, i cant imagine how they would work. Where did you hear about it? can you link to the thread you saw it or first heard it mentioned. 

Zack Maxwell

 You need to have Modo. Alternatively, you could just import the mesh into ZBrush, then subdivide and polish.

I don't know if there's a similar process in Max.

Axi5

I think it was only available through Mental Ray. It wasn't an amazing way to do it compared to Modo, but it was still there.

pointcache

Ok this is what i currently found -
similar thread
http://polycount.com/discussion/146280/smooth-edge-shading-legitimate-technique/p2
node for SD
http://www.manufato.com/?page_id=1009
modo has it built in 

Now i need to find a good way to do it with 3ds max, without mental ray.

The whole point of this approach is to reduce time investment, things like switching packages, importing to zbrush, support loops all consume time.

Zack Maxwell

That substance designer node looks really promising. With a bit of modification, I bet I can get it to work inside of painter like a smart material. Just throw it in a layer, and done.

pointcache

Grimwolf said:

That substance designer node looks really promising. With a bit of modification, I bet I can get it to work inside of painter like a smart material. Just throw it in a layer, and done.

The problem with that is that your mesh maps, like curvature wont be baked with these smooth normals, rendering it useless

Zack Maxwell

pointcache said:

Grimwolf said:

That substance designer node looks really promising. With a bit of modification, I bet I can get it to work inside of painter like a smart material. Just throw it in a layer, and done.

The problem with that is that your mesh maps, like curvature wont be baked with these smooth normals, rendering it useless

Oh yeah, you're right...

NoRank

Can't you just bake the other maps from your normal map?

As far as I know you can do that pretty well in both substance painter and designer.

Zack Maxwell

NoRank said:

Can't you just bake the other maps from your normal map?

As far as I know you can do that pretty well in both substance painter and designer.

You can, but it adds a lot of extra steps. Import maps, apply node, export new normal, open new project, import new normal.