Realistic Hair in Max, How?

LemmesMesh

Hello everyone!

So I've been modeling in Max forever but I everywhere I look to study about how to create realistic hair, it's all Maya and XGen, what's there to do in Max or do I have to start using Maya for that? If so, I'll have to learn Maya as a beginner

Torch

Haven't used Max in a while, but have you checked out Ornatrix?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5syaXesYCc

LemmesMesh

Torch said:

Haven't used Max in a while, but have you checked out Ornatrix?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5syaXesYCc

No, I haven't, this looks cool, I wanted something like that to work inside Max and not go over to Maya.
Would you say it's equally as great as XGen?

thomasp

there's also the built-in hair & fur modifier. combine with a good renderer and you should well be on your way. obviously this is for pre-rendered hair.

the plugin hairfarm is another popular solution.

unless - you are talking about polygonal hair for realtime use, that's a different story entirely (and i doubt xgen helps a lot with that either).

Mark Dygert

Did max update it's hair and fur plug-in? Last time I checked it was an ancient version of shave and a haircut.

They put xgen in Maya and there there are some workflows for games. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fs6rle_IbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLCpswLL6D4

LemmesMesh

Mark Dygert said:

Did max update it's hair and fur plug-in? Last time I checked it was an ancient version of shave and a haircut.

They put xgen in Maya and there there are some workflows for games. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fs6rle_IbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLCpswLL6D4

thomasp said:

there's also the built-in hair & fur modifier. combine with a good renderer and you should well be on your way. obviously this is for pre-rendered hair.

the plugin hairfarm is another popular solution.

unless - you are talking about polygonal hair for realtime use, that's a different story entirely (and i doubt xgen helps a lot with that either).

I don't think they updated it, man, XGen looks much better for all of this stuff otherwise I might have to give Ornatrix a try.

And yes, Thomas, I'm talking about Realtime use

Mark Dygert

You might want to check out GMH2 also http://www.thundercloud-studio.com/shops/gmh2/

It has workflows for going from hair to cards and from geometry masses to hair, to cards.

musashidan

Ornatrix costs 5 or 6 hundred. Hairfarm had its day and has been superseded by Ornatrix(and costs even more) if you're just using it for haircards then native Max hair is fine.