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Out of place ads on Polycount

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Recently I've noticed that there have been some ads that don't feel like they're supposed to be on Polycount. I know the 3ds Max/Maya etc. ads have been here forever, but these are most definitely new.







This one leads to a website that looks like this...



I've also encountered some popup-ads telling me I've won a free iPhone, and sometimes there's a video of some random bald dude that plays automatically when the page is loaded (and it's so damn loud). There are some more ads, like the typical "Doctors hate him"-bullshit.

I know some ads are shown to users based on their internet usage, but as far as I'm aware I haven't been looking at Russian dating sites nor random furry stuff. These ads don't seem to come up in the banner ones, they only appear underneath the avatars of a post's OP.

Previously I've had Polycount whitelisted in my Adblock settings but because of these ads I've had to enable it on the site, too.

Has anyone else noticed this?

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  • Eric Chadwick
    That's definitely troubling, and not what we signed up for. Thanks for this. We'll investigate.
  • cptSwing
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    cptSwing polycounter lvl 11
    I haven't seen those, personally. But EQ is kinda hot.
  • Eric Chadwick
    I'm not seeing any of those. Refreshed a ton.

    Mostly static ads, a couple animated/video ads with no sound (World of Tanks, surveys). The kinds of ads I'm seeing: car, art school, thermostat, 3d software, game, college loan. I'm in the US.

    Your IP is in Finland (so is your avatar apparently :). It might be serving weird things based on location. I don't have a Finnish VPN to connect to, but tried Sweden. Got ads for: shopping, squarespace, western union, business magazine. Tunneling through Norway I only get hair replacement ads, haha.
  • SveinY
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    I am getting that ad too lulz and I live in Norway, but who knows maybe it pops up because the interwebs knows I am filthy Perv lul


  • Bluestemos
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    Bluestemos polycounter lvl 5
    I'm not seeing any of those. Refreshed a ton.

    Mostly static ads, a couple animated/video ads with no sound (World of Tanks, surveys). The kinds of ads I'm seeing: car, art school, thermostat, 3d software, game, college loan. I'm in the US.

    Your IP is in Finland (so is your avatar apparently :). It might be serving weird things based on location. I don't have a Finnish VPN to connect to, but tried Sweden. Got ads for: shopping, squarespace, western union, business magazine. Tunneling through Norway I only get hair replacement ads, haha.

    Okay, so I tried using a VPN to see if that has an effect. Tunneling through the US I'm mostly getting car, loan, PayPal and clothing ads. Through the UK I kept seeing this single ad for an art exhibit. Through Sweden I got some miscellanious ads, but none of them were inappropriate. Without a VPN I mostly see ads for Russian dating sites and furry livestreams. Brilliant lol

    It's odd how it's just the ads underneath the avatars. They are from Google Ads, the same place where the banner ads are being served from. It shouldn't have anything to do with my web history, as I run CCleaner almost daily on my PC, and that should take care of most of the cached data my browsers have collected.

    I'm not seeing those ads on any other site, though. Elsewhere the ads usually fit the context of the site.

    EDIT: Great, so I'm not alone on this @SveinY
  • SveinY
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    Yeah same here I use ccleaner often and most of the ads I get on Polycount is date russian ladys or date this and dat + car ads and some loans ads heh
  • GhostDetector
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    At the time of writing this comment, I have a Walgreens' ad under OPs avatar (right side)  

    I haven't seen any of the ads OP mentioned but I do get random ads like F2P games and surveys.
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  • Aabel
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    Aabel polycounter lvl 6
    There's ads on polycount?

  • Eric Chadwick
    We appreciate when people whitelist Polycount. But we also realize that shitty ads make that too big an ask.

    Curious, has anyone been able to auto-block the ads on Artstation? Apparently they use some interesting techniques to subvert ad blockers.
  • Bek
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    Curious, has anyone been able to auto-block the ads on Artstation? Apparently they use some interesting techniques to subvert ad blockers.
    I just tried; it works (for now at least) with ublock origin. And unless you reallllly love a website you should probably block the ads because they can, unbeknownst to the site owner, deliver malware.
  • AtticusMars
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    AtticusMars greentooth
    We appreciate when people whitelist Polycount. But we also realize that shitty ads make that too big an ask.

    Curious, has anyone been able to auto-block the ads on Artstation? Apparently they use some interesting techniques to subvert ad blockers.
    They're not doing anything particularly special that I can see and advertisements can still be easily blocked by adding their advertising url path.

    The main thing that they are doing differently is that they host advertisements from their own image server and almost all adblocking happens through domain blacklisting/whitelisting. Their advertising url just isn't in any prominent blocklists.
  • Eric Chadwick
    I've heard they also use nonstandard sizes. Anyhow, ever-evolving battle I'm sure. Sites have to make money somehow, or they end up out of business. We're looking at other ways besides ads or Patreon.

    Anyhow, a bit OT.
  • cptSwing
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    cptSwing polycounter lvl 11
    Some sites detect adblockers and block their content unless you whitelist - too harsh?
  • kaptainkernals
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    I'm getting some out of context ads as well in the same location - under the profiles, and whats even more annoying, is some of them are video ads.

    The under the banner ads are still relevant however. Perhaps the ads served under profiles don't have the same settings?
  • Lazerus Reborn
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    Lazerus Reborn polycounter lvl 8
    Edit scratch that:

    Just ran a multi refresh in incognito mode, low and behold:


    The adsense is probably at fault, it did take around 100* refreshes to get this. Contact your ad supplier? 

    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    I deal with this in work a lot. Sometimes it can be content being injected into the web browser though a adsense or similar program installed on the host machine. Vpn's can change the way they interact with ads which can explain the differing results. Check for anything installed on your machine that shouldn't be there. Check through task manager to see what tasks are running. Check through chrome task manager and see if anything is there too. Try purging your full browser history of everything.  

    Other ways to check are to create a new account on the machine and log in and check that way. Crap can be saved to the appdata folder on a windows profile which can change behaviours. Incognito mode can also check this too but it can be less successful than a fresh account test.

    Just a last FYI, the ad sense on polycount are tied into your browsing history. I currently have Jobsite advert on mine as I was looking for new work after my contract finished however that was over a month ago ( new start tomorrow). If you don't want to see things of this nature then maybe you should think about your cookie footprint on your machine and change up the way you browse recreationally. Again incognito mode will prevent cookies and trackers for recreational sites bleeding over into work and day to day life. 

    Yes, I have had this conversation with pretty high level staff where I worked xD

    Lastly the adverts may have been tagged wrong on the deployment end hence the bleed over. Normally they do require triggers though as I've not seen any dubious adverts on polycount using multiple machines on many networks. If more people respond seeing these adverts it could be the adsense however it's looking a lot like a local machine issue. 
  • Eric Chadwick
    Thanks for the sleuthing.

    @Lazerus Reborn how are you getting @Bluestemos account screenshots? Work at the same place?
  • Bluestemos
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    @Lazerus Reborn I don't believe it's caused by anything on my machine.
    • My AppData folders don't seem to contain anything unusual
    • I don't have any shady Chrome extensions
    • I run CCleaner almost daily, it should get rid of most of the cached data Chrome has stored on my machine
    • I run Malwarebytes quite often as well, so far there haven't been any malicious pieces of software found on my PC
    • I couldn't find anything odd in the Task Manager (nothing weird is running nor is started when the PC is booted)
    • The ads I keep seeing here aren't in any way related to my searches

    @Eric Chadwick Could it just be that that specific ad is broken? It's the only ad on Polycount that displays out of context stuff for me. The banners seem fine, showing ads for Knald, 3ds Max, Maya LT, Daz3D, etc. As I said earlier, Polycount is the only site I've encountered these ads on.
  • Jonas Ronnegard
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    Maybe the Artstation way would be a good way to go?

    They host their own ads, and they only allow art related ads, so no real reason to block since it`s mostly ads people hanging around artstation would be interested in.
  • Lazerus Reborn
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    @Bluestemos

    Yeah it's looking more like a adsense issue, I ran checks off a clean virtual machine to check it out earlier and it came up there :) 

    @Eric Chadwick
    I just opened the thread in incognito and used a batch refresh:

    I guess my snipping tool skills are on point. It does seem that the profile advert is linked to browsing history. I saw a fair few related things to what I've been up to. Take the above 123reg advert, I've been working with a client on designing a training system for him and his host is 123reg. I have never seen any out of context adverts on polycount using my profile yet but when I swap over to private mode it starts throwing out a few wobblers. Not many, most are pretty related such as networking, 3d related, TV/internet/tech. 

    Maybe it's defaulting to a set of adverts when there is not enough information to build a advert profile? I mean as smart as these systems are, distasteful things will always creep in despite the criteria being the most innocuous thing. Take the google image challenge by googling any random word without safe search, you'll hit porn within a few pages. 

    It could also just be a rogue set of adverts in the adsense which have been labeled incorrectly. Not much else I can gather on this end. 
  • kaptainkernals
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    I haven't had any of the russians, but i have had "get the slimmest wallet", speedtest.net and a durex video ad (which you can't remove).

    I've got all of my google adsense turned off - for both signed in and signed out, so there is no adsense profile for me, and like Bluestemos, i run CCleaner regularly, and my Norton removes ad focused cookies regularly.

    I also use privacy badger, which blocks about 20 domains (all ad related) on polycount - I allow ads to render, so that polycount gets revenue, but I block all of the associated cookies

    So i think adsense is maybe throwing out some random ads because it can't build a profile to render ads for that user, so instead of the ads being community / industry specific, it's as Lazerus says, is trying to be user specific based on an adsense profile (which doesn't always exist)
  • Aabel
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    Try out the brave browser. It's aggressively pro-privacy, anti-advertising/tracking (they are one and the same). It has a new payment methodology for site creators that does not rely on ads. 
  • AtticusMars
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    Can't say that this is the reason but I just want to point out that a lot of ISPs will inject and replace advertisements with their own. This is one (albeit minor) of the many reasons why polycount should really be using https.

    Your ISP can see everything you do on non-https sites and they don't need local cookie storage to track you so an incognito window won't do anything.
  • JacqueChoi
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  • Jonas Ronnegard
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    Had music starting playing from nothing all of a sudden and was throwing myself around 4 in the morning to turn it off, turned out to be a cat commercial of some sort that was looping on polycount.

    I don't really mind any sort of ads, but the kind that starts playing videos with sound, even if it does include cats, burn it.
  • Prime8
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    nothing special here: Corel, Autodesk, winzip, some Online Games, Computer stores
  • Eric Chadwick
    You can keep your hot Russians, I've got what I need.


    Haha wow, this is getting bizarre. 




  • Joopson
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    Yeah, I had an autoplaying with sound USNavy ad the other day, I think I mentioned to you. I had my headphones on, and the volume was up, and I almost had a heart attack, haha. Took me a while to find the tab that was causing it. And the video would complete, then 4 seconds later start again.

    It was pretty much a curse.

    I don't mind images, but videos, even without auto-sound, can make a page heavy, and take longer to load. I've had a polycount page freeze up for 5 seconds or so recently. I can only assume it was because of a video ad.
  • Danielmn
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    i personally have only seen ads, that relate to my google searches.

    Example:
    I did lot of light refernce google searches to day.

    First ad I saw here today was for home depot, light fixture ad.


    I dont mind but that is what I am getting

  • MrHobo
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    MrHobo polycounter lvl 13
    Weird, the oddest ad I got was for cars.com, which isnt really all that out of place.
    Almost all of the other ads I see are for gameart/cg related things.
  • Eric Chadwick
    The weird/audio ads are definitely not what we want. We're going to disable the side ad until we get this figured out. Working with Vanilla to get it disabled.
  • Joopson
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    I should mention that, for me, the Navy ad was on the top. But it was maybe a week ago, and haven't had it recently.
  • Eric Chadwick
    The side ad should be disabled now. We'll look into the inappropriate ads, and re-enable if they're fixed. Probably sometime after GDC.
  • Steve Schulze
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    ARe we supposed to get ads that are "relevant to the interest of artists"? I haven't seen anything egregious, but refreshing a few times has brought up adds for plaster board and funeral insurance. That said, it's Ebay about 85% of the time and Knald another 10% or so.
  • Burpee
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    Bro Code:




    lmao :') This guy deserve a medal
  • Eric Chadwick
    ARe we supposed to get ads that are "relevant to the interest of artists"? I haven't seen anything egregious, but refreshing a few times has brought up adds for plaster board and funeral insurance. That said, it's Ebay about 85% of the time and Knald another 10% or so.
    Yeah, that's the goal. We're still working on things behind the scenes.
  • Spoon
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    Spoon polycounter lvl 11
    I didn't have this issue before.
    But today I got my first non-relevant ad as well.


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