zBrush's damn camera

Chronicle

I've been learning zBrush over the last year and in every learner forum post i see, I always see posts about the camer and how it works.  Does anyone actually like zBrush's camera settings?  I absolutely can't stand it still.  Everyone's always like "oh you'll get used to it, it'll make sense later."  To this day, I still can't stand the damn thing.  zBrush is an incredible program. It does so much awesome stuff, but holy crap I can't get over how obnoxious this damn camera is.  I've locked the Y axis so that it operates more like traditional programs but the pivot point of the camera is like entirely impossible to set up correctly.  I've noticed if you hide half your mesh and hit F to focus on the part that's visible, it still sets the pivot point in some strange ass position relative to the whole mesh instead of the visible part that it's centered on.  I don't know, I'm just venting mostly but good god do I hate zBrush's camera

AtticusMars

afaik by default it orbits around the last area of the mesh you drew a stroke on

I don't have any trouble with it but I've been working in zbrush for like... 7 years so

pior

ZSwitcher is a plugin bringing the maya navigation controls to Zbrush. It works pretty damn well !

https://draster.com/ZSwitcher/

Chronicle

@pior that could be exactly what I need! even just having normal hotkeys for it would go a long way

kanga

Throw in a small sphere and use that as a cam target.

thomasp

if you introduce maya viewport navigation into zbrush, you'll have to change the key to inverse the brush effect and all the masking key combos and wherever CTRL and ALT are used around, don't you? that might be a bit of a bummer unless you just plain hate it all.

in which case you could just switch to another sculpt program entirely it would seem - and trade performance for sanity.

pior

@thomasp : Zswitcher does all that, relying on tab instead of ctrl for masking for instance.

Amsterdam Hilton Hotel

I've yet to meet someone who's enthusiastic about the zbrush UI. They might exist, somewhere.

cryrid

AtticusMars said:

afaik by default it orbits around the last area of the mesh you drew a stroke on

I don't have any trouble with it but I've been working in zbrush for like... 7 years so

This is the trick. I have an faster time orbiting in zbrush than I do in other programs because of it.

Chronicle

I was not having it work that way in regards to orbiting around the last brush stroke.  For instance, I was sculpting a hand which i had only the hand visible on the mesh and the rest was hidden.  I'd sculpt on or move a piece of the hand in some way and next time i'd go to rotate the camera it'd have the pivot somewhere off in boofoo.

cryrid

Local transforms needs to be enabled in order to use the last editing point instead of the objects center. I also keep Rotate on All Axis on for a more predictable movement. 

Spoon

@"Amsterdam Hilton Hotel
 said:

I've yet to meet someone who's enthusiastic about the zbrush UI. They might exist, somewhere.

Cautiously raising my hand.

On a more serious note: The Zbrush UI is incredibly flexible and everything hotkeyable. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I don't think it ever gets in the way of my work.
Custom Hotkeys
Custom UI
And mixed: Custom Menus bound to hotkeys.

isnt this exactly what everyone does in other packages like MODO etc as well?
Or is the problem people have with ZB purely coming from the .. interesting camera controls?

cptSwing

No, it's terrible IMO. Simply terrible. Sorry Pixo, still love you bae

musashidan

musashidan

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Sunray

I'm confused what's not to like about Zbrush camera it's perfect.

AtticusMars

Tbh when I first saw this threads title I thought it would be about ZBrush's wonky perspective distortion. I love the camera navigation personally, there's a lot of things I hate about the UI but navigation is one of the things it absolutely nails imo.

Wish I could get ZBrush style navigation in Blender.