[UE4] Demon Shrine - corridor environment

Grusti

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Hi guys! Thank you for checking my thread!

I choose a great concept from Nikolay Stoyanov for PoP Warrior Within for my main inspiration

My main goal for that off course is finish it and I would try to create the same mood and atmosphere for that scene as close as possible and improve it for my taste.

So, this is gonna be intense

Grusti

I allready made blockout 

And more defined blockout in ue4.

Grusti

working on lightning 

Grusti

Allright! I have something here) I decide to grab some assets from infinity blade free pack and put it in my scene to have some kind of represent what can be in there and off course I will make my own in future

Grusti

For that moment I work with columns and this image represent how much stuff I need to do 

Grusti

Tommorow I will post sculpts and lowpoly meshes without bake and YEAH!
C&C welcome!!!)

Grusti

With help from my friend Dmitry Koval https://www.artstation.com/artist/madio we decide to put a character to the scene for create proper sense of scale

greattug

Its will be look nicer when the comes depth into mesh. In my opininon; Image based textures looks bad when the original mesh is not detailed. You can add some extra sculpts and details with zbrush , then this sculptures and collums will look believeable.. 

Grusti

@greattug Totaly agree with you!
But it's just a placeholder textures and I will show my sculpts soon as I get to computer)

Grusti

most interesting zbrush sculpt for main columns

gsokol

I dig the sculpts!  Some nice detail in there.

I'm not really getting a Prince of Persia vibe here.  Specifically, I don't see anything in here that really reminds me of Persia.

Take a look at Persian or ancient Iranian architecture.  Take a look at these:
https://courses.marlboro.edu/file.php/702/Iran/vaultbridge.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/11/a6/8d/11a68df55b35c09cc65c4e1ccbc80f48.jpg

  One thing I think you could do is rework the arches on the left side to have that pinched arch look.  I don't think you need to go crazy with the tilework like some references have, but I do think you could add much more visual interest to the ground with a more ornate stone pattern as well.

Grusti

@gsokol thank you! I actually think about interesting patterns for the ground and pointing arches and persian patterns around statue but not about arches on left side - i will think about it, thanks for pointing!

Strange thinпs, when I start searching references I found that this is actually a dynamic theme for ps3 and pretty much nothing on concept tells about Persia maybe more about India Oo.

Then I found a photos for columns and they are from Qutub Complex in Delhi that are represent islamic architecture. Pretty cool complex))) Concept artist have a huge inspiration from them I think)

Grusti

weekends update
• Cleanup work with meshes
• made sculpt for stairs, arch parts
after work I will post screenshots with sculpts  and would try to write about what I need to do more

ZacD

Looking great. The scene could really use an indicator of scale (beyond the stand in characters), I guess the vegetation can serve that purpose. 

AlexBes

Cool sculpts!

OctOstera

Looking great man! Sculpts are looking nice. I think the textures look a bit procedural at this stage, maybe adding some small amount of edge detect or just roughness variation may help a bit. I think you may be loosing much of your great sculpts due to your texturing. 

Composition wise I think that, right now, your two strong points in the scene (leaving aside the mannequins) are the second column from left to right and, far second, the statue at the end. Lighting isn´t helping tho. Probably some color variation will make the statue a focal point, which is what you are aiming for I guess?

Quick advice: if the lighting is going to stay this way (or not change much) I would destroy the second column, or paint it with blood, or add a corpse or some like that. Make it interesting to look at. This scene is screaming for a cold light, some nice blue fire at the end in the statue will not only pop the thing out but also create a great interesting color contrast. 

Looking solid thus far man! Following ^^

Sharur

Love the sculpts and in Unreal the details are nicely visible.
Columns are a bit to repetitive and clean but I'm sure it's going to change later.

AXEL

Loving sculpts as well, may I ask how do you make the base shapes for them? I'm assuming it's not just hand scuplted from a box in zbrush ?

Add3r

OctOstera said:

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Composition wise I think that, right now, your two strong points in the scene (leaving aside the mannequins) are the second column from left to right and, far second, the statue at the end. Lighting isn´t helping tho. Probably some color variation will make the statue a focal point, which is what you are aiming for I guess?

Quick advice: if the lighting is going to stay this way (or not change much) I would destroy the second column, or paint it with blood, or add a corpse or some like that. Make it interesting to look at. This scene is screaming for a cold light, some nice blue fire at the end in the statue will not only pop the thing out but also create a great interesting color contrast. 

Looking solid thus far man! Following ^^

Agreed the scene is looking dope, excited to watch the progress.  One thing I think that will help with the overly warm lighting, is just pushing the indirect light (shadows) just a very very slight tone of blue (or whatever cool color works, ever so slight green/blue could be cool to offset the orange/red tones).  Or even pushing your color temp to a cooler color and then using a warm sun to offset the cool screen wash.  Really just comes down to tweaking, but I think a blue fire would be a biiiit forced for how natural you are making the scene feel, wouldn't want to break the immersion too much by adding a game-y fire to a clearly abandoned and broken feeling temple.  This is just my personal opinion tho, and once again entirely up to you to experiment @ilyaivanovart

Keep it going dude! This is gonna be a cool piece.  

Grusti

So much attentions and great feedback! Thanks guys!

ZacD Vegetation would defiantly helps!

AlexBes big thanks! I try my best)

OctOstera  thank you! Actually I didn't create this textures it's just a placeholders) Maybe I need to start baking because more and more people tells about strange textures)))
I was thinking about composition and yeah as you said scene have two focal points - one from left where image has the most brightens and second its a statue. And in the future I will try to shift the focus more on the statue  cause I think it would be the hardest part for this scene from sculpting point of view.
I have one early screenshot where I put a fire around statue and it helps a lot with composition ... I'll think about returning a fire in a scene, thanks)

Sharur  big thx! Yeah, for sure)

Add3r appreciate) I experimenting and study lighting in ue4 for this scene and man ... lightning is HARD! So much attention and feelings we need for to make something visually stunning! I'll take your advice and would work with lighting more for sure.

Grusti

AXEL not a problem) this is my base meshes for most difficult part of columns

Grusti

!!! Morning update
• Couple highpoly shots



• Prepare arch meshes for sculpting 
• Place fire around statue
• Tweak lighting a bit

Grusti

• for week I plan
- resculpt bottom part of column;
- finish all geo for main parts of the scene such as columns, arches, stairs, wood beams;
- create stone texture in substance designer for roof and right wall;
- create dirt texture for floor;
- BAKE all meshes T_T
- and continue to work with the lighting and look for references to the missing items

I start thinking about what fx would be cool to place in scene. I think about god rays, falling leaves, smoke that scattered on the ground, wind, dust particles ...

If you have some information or advice about fx and how to setup it in engine it would really helps!

Grusti

update! 

• Tweaked lighting a bit

• Changed camera frame 

• Baked everything except statue part

• Started with tiling textures for wall, roof and floor

I think about redoing all uvs for lightmap cause i have so much errors with shadows and upping resolution not help at all

Great article about unwrapping for lightmaps

https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Content/Types/StaticMeshes/LightmapUnwrapping/
Some bake shots:

Grusti

• small update •
Decide to change name of thread from "PoP WW Fan art" to " Cliff Shrine corridor " for me this name tells more about scene and like gsokol said "I'm not really getting a Prince of Persia vibe here.  Specifically, I don't see anything in here that really reminds me of Persia." I admit it too)))
• So, spent couple hours sculpting texture for stone wall. Nothing special just CB,TSB and couple alphas

Right now I think about patter for floor and what to sculpt around statue

Grusti

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Grusti

Spent morning to sculpting floor plates. I left to do damaged pieces and floor is done

I have an idea to add little sand mounds ... tell me what you think!

Grusti

slowly but steady) I added floor plates, ground, pebbles , little sand dunes ... without textures at the moment

Grusti

Sketched idea on canvas 

ConnorDuke3DArt

Loving the detail in the scene so far! Very awesome work, keep it up!

Grusti

intense SCULPTING insane RETOPO

PolyBrother

This is coming along quite nicely. I'm digging the blown in sand mounds that have built up over time. A nice weathered touch. Already imagining the worn banners flowing about as well..

Perhaps some vases/pots and other simple props could establish the scale better so character stand-ins aren't as needed. The standing torches seem a bit out of place, but I don't know if they're placeholder at the moment. To me, it just seems like they need more of a base or something because they would appear to fall over easily.

Another idea is the shrine could be an additional place for an artifact - could be anything from a jewel or a dagger, to further make it a central piece. Just throwing ideas out as I type.

Great work so far! Keep us updated. 

Grusti

done ^^* next one plz!

Grusti

long time no see comrads! 
after vacation on GDC I became a little lazy ...
So! UPDATE!!!
• POTS!
• APEX FLAGS without ripping at the moment
• FIREPLACES
• A LOT OF TINY FIXES!!! 
Right now I need ivy and vines for additional details and ... off course ... Statue

pixelpatron

I like where this is headed, but the floor feels a little too uneven unless you push this more towards ruins (meaning some of the pillars would be severely damaged/worn/collapsed). The flags are a bitt too repetitive, although I like the splash of color. I feel like this would be stronger if you had a different treatment for the right side of the room (a basic wall since you have so much detail on the pillars). I know that is a departure from you concept, but it's a bit visually noisy at the moment. 

Grusti

Playing with main shader and material for stone


look dope I think)
scene are lacking of green but I would add plants later

Grusti

little update with sand material for my little dunes
and teared flags

Grusti

sup! Test textures for flags. I think about white one

Grusti

current state of the scene

Grusti

My demon got pants

Grusti

Final submission! https://www.artstation.com/artwork/GZXW1

Rmlambert

Daaaaaaamn, I remember seeing this really early on, you did a beautiful job with this, love the materials Great Job!