Joopson - Stanley No. 9 1/4 (and maybe more)
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Feedback on handplane:
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Original first post:
I've decided to take part, as a game artist and a handtool aficionado.
I've decided to make the Stanley No. 9 1/4 block plane. Depending, I might end up itching to make some other plane as well. We shall see. But about the 9 1/4, I'm a sucker for brass, and have always loved the feel of this block plane. I also happen to own it, so I can really get in there to get measurements and look at wear.
Here's an image of the Stanley No 9 1/4 (image taken from http://jimbodetools.com/ ):
And here's a super early block in of the body of it, because I figure it's better to show something than nothing.
Trying to be as accurate as possible with my measurements, so I'm really taking my time with it.
Should be updating fairly regularly. So I'll have more to show soon.
Thanks!
Feedback on handplane:
So, some feedback about handplane. Overall I actually quite like it. 95% of it worked without a hitch, and was easy to find my way around.
It took me a while to figure out how to do a material map based on separate meshes, but once I figured out how it was done, it's actually a pretty flexible and intuitive system. I used it to get down base values for albedo and roughness, and it produced a nice clean PSD.
It didn't seem too slow baking at 4096 either, which was nice. AO was slow, but AO is always slow. These things take time.
One thing about the UI— some buttons have their text as a 50%-ish grey, which makes them feel like they're locked or something, like I don't have a necessary option enabled that activates those settings. But they're active buttons. It caused me a bit of confusion at first, and still trips me up.
Some other options, it would be nice to have tool-tips that pop up. Things like "Generator Space Downsampling" aren't immediately obvious, and of course I could go to the documentation, but I'm sometimes too lazy or don't want to break the flow.
I had some difficulties baking curvature; notably, I had to bump "max curvature" WAY up. Like, 5000 or something, if I recall. In the documentation, it says the values are usually much lower. Is it because of mesh scale or something? Once I figured out I needed much higher numbers, it worked well and as expected. The volumetric gradient map is a godsend.
Overall I was quite content using handplane. I didn't want for anything, while baking this object.
And the final shots of my first plane, the coffin smoother:It took me a while to figure out how to do a material map based on separate meshes, but once I figured out how it was done, it's actually a pretty flexible and intuitive system. I used it to get down base values for albedo and roughness, and it produced a nice clean PSD.
It didn't seem too slow baking at 4096 either, which was nice. AO was slow, but AO is always slow. These things take time.
One thing about the UI— some buttons have their text as a 50%-ish grey, which makes them feel like they're locked or something, like I don't have a necessary option enabled that activates those settings. But they're active buttons. It caused me a bit of confusion at first, and still trips me up.
Some other options, it would be nice to have tool-tips that pop up. Things like "Generator Space Downsampling" aren't immediately obvious, and of course I could go to the documentation, but I'm sometimes too lazy or don't want to break the flow.
I had some difficulties baking curvature; notably, I had to bump "max curvature" WAY up. Like, 5000 or something, if I recall. In the documentation, it says the values are usually much lower. Is it because of mesh scale or something? Once I figured out I needed much higher numbers, it worked well and as expected. The volumetric gradient map is a godsend.
Overall I was quite content using handplane. I didn't want for anything, while baking this object.
____________________
Original first post:
I've decided to take part, as a game artist and a handtool aficionado.
I've decided to make the Stanley No. 9 1/4 block plane. Depending, I might end up itching to make some other plane as well. We shall see. But about the 9 1/4, I'm a sucker for brass, and have always loved the feel of this block plane. I also happen to own it, so I can really get in there to get measurements and look at wear.
Here's an image of the Stanley No 9 1/4 (image taken from http://jimbodetools.com/ ):
And here's a super early block in of the body of it, because I figure it's better to show something than nothing.
Trying to be as accurate as possible with my measurements, so I'm really taking my time with it.
Should be updating fairly regularly. So I'll have more to show soon.
Thanks!
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Just started texturing. Still a while to go, of course.
So, some feedback about handplane. Overall I actually quite like it. 95% of it worked without a hitch, and was easy to find my way around.
It took me a while to figure out how to do a material map based on separate meshes, but once I figured out how it was done, it's actually a pretty flexible and intuitive system. I used it to get down base values for albedo and roughness, and it produced a nice clean PSD.
It didn't seem too slow baking at 4096 either, which was nice. AO was slow, but AO is always slow. These things take time.
One thing about the UI— some buttons have their text as a 50%-ish grey, which makes them feel like they're locked or something, like I don't have a necessary option enabled that activates those settings. But they're active buttons. It caused me a bit of confusion at first, and still trips me up.
Some other options, it would be nice to have tool-tips that pop up. Things like "Generator Space Downsampling" aren't immediately obvious, and of course I could go to the documentation, but I'm sometimes too lazy or don't want to break the flow.
I had some difficulties baking curvature; notably, I had to bump "max curvature" WAY up. Like, 5000 or something, if I recall. In the documentation, it says the values are usually much lower. Is it because of mesh scale or something? Once I figured out I needed much higher numbers, it worked well and as expected. The volumetric gradient map is a godsend.
Overall I was quite content using handplane. I didn't want for anything, while baking this object.
Anyway, here are the shots.
Flats:
And wires:
Have to smooth out some facets and things that are a result of not thinking-through some shapes enough to know I should have started with more geometry. And I also need to do a detail pass sculpt.
only bit that looks a bit blobby from this shot would be the connector bit inside the top hood.
I'll absolutely go over a lot of it again; there's some blobbiness going on all over that I need to tighten up, but that connector bit is absolutely the most obvious, so I'll take care of that. Thanks @Shiv for pointing it out!
Putting this reminder here for myself: DON'T FORGET THE LITTLE OVAL GRIPS ON THE SIDE.
I've been trying to remember them since the beginning, and I keep putting it off.
Here's a small update to the highpoly.
Important takeaways:
- hPolish can't fix all my problems
- Dynamesh can fix many problems.
- Don't look too closely, if it won't be visible in the final
I think this is more or less the final high. Gotta get the low and texture done by the 8th (the end of the 8th, or beginning?) so I have to move on, happy or not. And really, I'm happy enough with it.Haven't thought about this project in a while, but still plan to finish it up at some point. Maybe this'll get me to.
So, the jaggedness is definitely on purpose, though this angle doesn't show it so clearly. I have a few of these old Stanley block planes laying around, and on many, the enameled japanning around that curve is pretty bumpy and chipped. I'm not sure if it's because of the position the pieces are in when they're painted, or if it happens during the curing process, or during use, but they're rarely that smooth and pretty on that part.
So I tried to recreate what I see on a particular blockplane I own. Though who knows if it'll look any good when baked down, or even if it looks any good now.
Here's another angle showing the detail (now I realize that edge is probably too sharp anyway. So will probably revisit the sculpt):
Really, thanks for the feedback!