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Motivation, how does one achieve such a Rare thing?

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I wanna say I'm somewhat between a novice and intermediate when it comes to modeling and texturing and I've been feeling like I have been in this same spot for more than a year now, it's frustrating, I've learned a few new things but haven't pushed myself enough to achieve the skill level that I desire, which is the skill level of a lot of the bigger people on here.

Would like to see myself using Zbrush more often, making very well made textures, designing characters, landscapes, assets the such, but I can't seem to find the motivation, I WANT to learn, I WANT to make things, but I just can't find the motivation, I sit myself on my couch, put on a tutorial Via Chromecast, open up the program on my computer and then nothing I doing some things here and there but after that I just lose interest and lack motivation.

I love 3D I want to do better, but I find it difficult to change my mindset to do what I want to do and force myself to practice, I guess I lack discipline?

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  • PyrZern
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    PyrZern polycounter lvl 8
    Motivation is the hype. It comes and it dies out. You need discipline to work through a project. Art is definitely learn by doing. So do more, and watch less. Browse pinterest/artstation or whatever, pick something you like. Then start working on it. Post progress often. (everyday is fine, if you need people to pressure you into working)

    Also, any portfolio we can see ?
  • Jaykrass
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    Jaykrass polycounter lvl 3
    PyrZern said:
    Also, any portfolio we can see ?
    Not much currently, I really want to focus on setting one up, I have done a lot, I have a lot of screen shots of things I've done and renders of things I've designed, but it all feels to amaturish, not really something I want in a portfolio.

    Here's my DA though, http://jaykrass.deviantart.com/
  • huffer
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    You could try joining a game project, non-paid or royalties, you'll have stuff to do and will be a great learning experience. And it won't be as aimless as watching tutorials, because they'll give you specific tasks and goals. If there's anything you're not sure about how to do, then you can look it up and learn as you go.
  • Jaykrass
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    Jaykrass polycounter lvl 3
    huffer said:
    You could try joining a game project, non-paid or royalties, you'll have stuff to do and will be a great learning experience. And it won't be as aimless as watching tutorials, because they'll give you specific tasks and goals. If there's anything you're not sure about how to do, then you can look it up and learn as you go.
    That's the tricky part I have nothing good enough to show for my skills, I don't have the skill level yet to do projects.
  • Biomag
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    I know this part when motivation starts to become hard to find as progress doesn't seem to show up or feedback is lacking. But there is a simple truth: The industry doesn't care.

    Nobody out there is waiting for you or has the time to listen why something doesn't look as good as in someone's else portfolio. As long as you are not better than expected nobody will want to know why.

    So its up to you. Especially with disciplin and motivation. You don't have it? Then I guess someone else wants it more than you. You might say under different circumstances you could do so much more, but why should anyone bother to listen to that if there is again someone who is already delivering?

    The truth is as simple as reckless - its up to you. You have to find a way. Some need a structured day with clearly dedicated time, some need to find a group, some need to put up stuff on the internet to expose themselves,... there are many threads about motivation, you can easily find them for advice, BUT they all start with YOU.

    Be honest to yourself how much you want it. And probably be desperate to make it.

    And I am telling you this from personal experience as I am fighting the same problem. I left a career behind to make game art and now looking for a job questions do arise if that was a stupid idea and where all of this is going. Me at 30+ looking/hoping for a entry level gig, while friends of mine getting into senior positions in their jobs. But at the end of the day there is the motivation too - I know I want to do it and I sacrificed already a lot of time to get there, so if it isn't enough it means I have to work harder and all I've done so far just hasn't been enough. No reason to dwell on it. Learn to accept the adversity and use it as a motivation.
  • huffer
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    There's plenty of small hobby projects around, I'm sure you'll find one suited for you, check the UE4 forums for example. If it's non-paid, there won't be any crazy expectations from you, and if you're dedicated and eager to work and learn you'll be a good asset for a team.
  • PyrZern
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    PyrZern polycounter lvl 8
    Reddit always to be looking for artists for rev-share. I don't know how many of them will actually finish their games, but I guess you really don't have anything to lose.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/gameDevClassifieds/

    Or, pick a concept here, start on it, and post progress frequently here for feedback.
    https://www.pinterest.com/PyrZern/inspiration-n-idea-characters/
  • Beestonian
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    Beestonian polycounter lvl 8
    I'm actually amazed that nobody has linked this legendary post made on this very forum only months ago.

  • kanga
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    I suppose one of the greatest hurdles in game art is the actual time it takes to get out a finished product. You can start something and then have to fight your say through lots of processes. That can be pretty tiring. This wont work for everyone but i like to practice with new character sketches at the beginning of the day. When I was am illustrator the head of the studio would tell us that it always tooka couple of hours to warm up (that meant getting to work on time :) ).

    There are artists that forge ahead but I reckon doing quicker sketches ar rhe beginning of the day is a good way to start.
  • pangaea
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    pangaea polycounter lvl 5
    This is a good podcast from http://www.thecollectivepodcast.com/vitaly-bulgarov/
    He talks about it. 

    Then there is this 

    Sort of says what Joao says. 
  • Jaykrass
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    Jaykrass polycounter lvl 3
    Was finally able to do something.

  • Biomag
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    That's the way to go :) Up and working again :)
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