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Batman's Batarang (WIP)

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I have been working on this Batarang for a couple days now just trying to re-teach myself maya. As you can see I still have a ways to go as far as geometry at least ;). I am currently trying to build a presentable portfolio for colleges but am still working on some aspects of modeling. At this time I am also trying to become accustomed to Substance Painter and Designer to eventually texture this. Critiques and comments are greatly appreciated as I know that I have much to learn still. 

Suggestions are also very welcome.
My current workflow personally is modeling low and high poly in maya, baking normals in maya, uv setting up in maya, substance designer for metals and plastics etc., substance painter for any other additions. 


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  • Dethling
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    Dethling polycounter lvl 11
    Good start.
    I think you could clean up the geo on the flat surfaces of the blade a lot.
    I would also add some more geo to the cylindrical parts (middle and the holes), also try to equalize the vert distribution at the holes.
  • Poseidon8734
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    @Dethling Thanks! I know I need to clean up the geo I am just not sure how to do it correctly tbh lol. I feel like if I mess with anything I will break it somehow. I always tend to do that. Also how would I reduce the geo on the flat surface but add geo to the holes?

  • Dethling
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    Dethling polycounter lvl 11
    Unfortunately I'm only working with 3dMax, so not sure about how to do it in Maya.
    In Max I would simply merge the verts from the flat plane to the edge verts (try to keep quads/triangle polys).

    But first I would tackel the hole (& center cylinder):
    I would detach the inner hole faces to a new object and then use the "edge loop" tool (+shift) which allows me to create centered, average edges (based on the smoothing groups) and by this it would add more geo and keep the round form at the same time.

    Alternatively you can delete the inner hole faces, create new cylinders with more faces at this point, delete the top and bottom face, invert the remaining faces and then fit it manually by only moving on the z-axis.

    Afterwards I would attach the element again and target weld the verts from the bat-rang to the one from the (new) hole faces (and maybe add additional verts if needed^^).

    I hope my explanation is somewhat clear (it's always hard to describe such workflows^^)
  • Poseidon8734
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    @Dethling : I will try my best to do what you are saying. I am more of a visual learner so trying to follow that was a little difficult lol. Thanks for the help and I will see what I can do! ;)
  • Poseidon8734
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    Did a little cleaning up of the geometry. Not quite sure if that is what you mean @Dethling but here it is!
  • Ged
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    Ged interpolator
    Good idea for a fun small project. Are all those polys within the main shape doing anything? it looks like you could get rid of a lot of them just by snapping the verts toward the edges. Im assuming this is your lowpoly? if this is the lowpoly then why is the bat symbol in the middle made of geometry?
  • Poseidon8734
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    @Ged
    The only reason I have so many polys in the middle is for the holes to be somewhat detailed. I wanted to make this a somewhat detailed model. That is why I made the symbol out of geometry.
  • Dethling
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    Dethling polycounter lvl 11
    Did a quick paint over (still not perfect of course):
    But I hope it makes it mor clear.
    Always try to remove vertex where they do nothing for the shape of the object (e.g. on a flat surface).
    I would also increase the sides of the middle cylinder of the batarang (~16) so you don't see edges if you want a close up view of it.
  • Ged
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    Yeah deathling explained what we meant about the geo. I take it you are making this? https://www.projecttriforce.com/images/products/secondary/bat_batarang-8.jpg

    you could add more sides to the middle cyclinder as said and then just bake all the details(bat symbol and ring) on top into the lowpoly. unless you are doing super closeups of the symbol no one will know if its geometry or just a normal map. Its up to you though but personally I wouldnt spend so many polys on something so small.
  • Poseidon8734
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    @Dethling
    I appreciate the time you put into drawing over that! To be honest after trying to fix it the way you said it, the work to delete all the edges and vertices is a lot for a small object like this. I might just restart it and try to get better geometry the first time. I don't think merges verts will fix this either.
    @Ged
    Honestly what do you think? I was going to have it be something I could put into a portfolio. What would you suggest?
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