Medieval Cellar UE4 Environment [DONE] [Image Heavy]

Soul Exist

Hey Polycounters! I'll be starting my next environment very soon. Here are the concept Images and some quick notes calling out the props/materials by text. Artwork by Evgeniy Musienko. 

Notes: Last Image is just inspiration for more prop ideas. All art is by Evgeniy Musienko.

Soul Exist

Decided to start this project off with tileable materials. First one being some medieval bricks I made in Substance Designer.

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BucketOfNuggets

Bricks look really awesome but they don't look anything like the concept. The concept has really irregular and random brick shapes.

CodeferBlue

Woah. I like your idea of having side notes in the concept of what props you will make and the materials that will be needed. Looking forward to see the concept converted into 3D. May I ask, is this a realtime 3D project? For example, could I walk around this environment in something like UE4?

Soul Exist

BucketOfNuggets said:

Bricks look really awesome but they don't look anything like the concept. The concept has really irregular and random brick shapes.

There are some regular bricks in the second image. I screen capped it for ya :P 

CodeferBlue said:

Woah. I like your idea of having side notes in the concept of what props you will make and the materials that will be needed. Looking forward to see the concept converted into 3D. May I ask, is this a realtime 3D project? For example, could I walk around this environment in something like UE4?

I will be creating this in UE4 but it'll most likely be a fly through level. There isn't much space to walk and being able to fly where you want will allow you to get close to areas without much collision getting in the way. 

CodeferBlue

Oh, yeah I didn't mean walk specifically. Flying counts. Was hoping you could walk/fly through the level rather than it just being rendered pictures. Cool.

PaulChambers3D

Cool to see your notes - do you take a similar approach when identifying opportunities for modular geometry?

Soul Exist

PaulChambers3D said:

Cool to see your notes - do you take a similar approach when identifying opportunities for modular geometry?

I usually just take mental notes when looking for areas that can be modular. This scene isn't too complex in design so I didn't feel like I had to write em down. I usually find out what works during the blocking stages so I do try and find as many opportunities to use modularity. It saves a ton of time. 

Soul Exist

I've been busy with work so I haven't had time to get a lot done but I've not abandoned this project. Been working on detailing my blockout and getting things ready for sculpt. I'll have an update this week guys. 

Soul Exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQbahALWH5E&feature=youtu.be

CodeferBlue

Looking really sweet. Blockout looks almost identical to the concept. I'm fairly new so no experienced critique from me but it's inspiring and it kind of teaches me too.

Soul Exist

Hey guys. Been dealing with other things so I haven't had much time to give this much attention. 

Soul Exist

Few more screens.
Going to follow this up by modelling more of the smaller props before vertex painting and placing decals to breakup the scene.

kohg

I think it's safe to say that this will be your best work so far.  Really digging the stone block wall and the wood, model and texture wise. keep up the good work.

wester

Yeah wow this is great!  Really excited to see this progress!

CodeferBlue

:O Thank you for treating my eyes.

wirrexx

wow, would love to see the process on the wood! wonderfull scene!

mobkon

Really nice work man :awesome:

Shyralon

The scene is looking great, it really pays off that you took the time to properly sculpt everything
Lighting/Atmosphere is awesome, kinda reminds me of Until Dawn.

RobeOmega

Loving this so far! Especially the lighting you have right now.

Soul Exist

Thanks guys
 Will post more when i can.

amirabd2130

like the concept and reference choice.
Looking forward to see more

Soul Exist

Hey everyone. I do apologize for the absence. I had to put this scene on  pause for awhile to really learn how to bring this to the next level. I'm still working on it but i wanted to update you all. I am also working on another scene simultaneously so it's taken me awhile to  come back to this. 

CodeferBlue

Wow. Already it looks like the mood has been set pretty well according to the concept. Could you showcase one or two props to show the quality of them individually? i.e. a barrel or a bucket.

Poinball

Awesome man !!

Kid.in.the.Dark

Dayum Moses, you're really killing this one haha...

Only critiques I can throw in there right now is probably more on the presentation side from your last screenshot... seems a little overly sharpened and comes across a little noisy on a lot of your dense textures e.g. ropes, wood, etc... and that the cloth on the bed seems a little low-poly with all the sharp triangular segments in there but that's really just knit picking... your substances are picking up really well, really feeling that glisten off the floor from this angle (Y)

Keep it up!

Soul Exist

@CodeferBlue I'm still updating the old models but i will post prop images soon.
@KidintheDark  Yeah things are still in progress and I did sharpen the fuck out of the image in Photoshop haha. UE4 ran REALLY slow for me when I increased the temporal AA over 100. Not sure how to get the high-res screenshot to render the temporal AA settings while not in gameplay. 

pablohotsauce

Looks awesome so far. I dunno shit about enviro modeling yet, but compared to the original concept art, your execution looks very clean. The concept art is way more contrasty and eye-searing. Seems like you'd need stronger AO, and stronger lights and shadows, if you wanted yours to match it more closely (if!). Right now yours is more like Valve's take on the art: very matte and smooth, and more realistic. Very cool, though.

gfelton

Love the style you're going for here, fantastic scene as well! One thing I think would look good is giving the cloth a tanner, more earthy color to it. At the moment the white contrasts too much with the darker tones of the background. Looking back at the concept though, maybe you could get a similar effect by adding some dirt or grunge to those fabrics. Not sure how much you'd want to deviate though. Looks great either way!

Soul Exist

Hey my dudes. Another update, One thing I'm having serious trouble with are alphas. I cannot seem to get the engine to correctly mask out alpha patterns like spider webs, torn cloth, etc. Any tips or resources I could use would be super helpful. I'm getting really poor masking issues and I'm not sure how execute assets that need alpha cut-outs. I attached a bunch of screens and threw in a few of my other scene if anyone was interested.  I'd say i'm almost finished with this but please send me any comments or feedback you have that'll help me improve. 

AlexanderConcept

this looks great!

Soul Exist

I am struggling to get this kind of wear and tear in my cloth or just how crisp the alpha is being read.

Soul Exist

I keep getting blurred out masks. Take a look at my webs for example.

Soul Exist

@AlexanderConcept Thanks buddy!

Joopson

What blend mode are you using, and what does the mask look like? Does it have mipmapping turned on?

FreneticPonies

Nice work!

jose.fuentes

this has turned out so good!

Soul Exist

Joopson said:

What blend mode are you using, and what does the mask look like? Does it have mipmapping turned on?

I'm going to try again with a higher quality image and turn mipmapping off because it was on . Probably was a bad mix of the two. 

Joopson

I'm not necessarily saying turning mipmapping off will be a smart choice-- it might get noisy when you view it from far away. But it's worth trying. Scene looks really lovely so far. Has a really special feel to it.

Stavaas

Hey man, looking really nice!

Telerak

Excellent scene, I'm inspired by your sculpting work to start learning a lot more ZBrush.

As for the Masks on your webs, are you using a single color/alpha channel? Or a a white mask using RGB? If you aren't using an all white mask I would suggest doing so!

Soul Exist

@Telerak

I usually put a mask in my alpha channel for masks, but as far as the sculpting goes. I usually just beat down the edges with trim dynamic and use alphas to get the details I need then bake. Nothing too crazy. 

Soul Exist

I'm gonna go ahead and call this one done my dudes. more images over at Artstation https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0Z9e5

Sharur

Amazing. Nothing else to say.

Michael_Ingrassia

Did you ever get your alpha issues "sorted" out? (See what I did there). If not try this:
make your spider web maps a png texture. We currently do it in Unity.
if using tga maps be sure to put the alpha in the rgb channels and save as a 32 bit. 24 bit will remove the alpha.
If all else fails, using 8 bit alphas can help resolve issues because its either black or white, no greyscale. But alphas can look more old school as 8 bit.

kohg

You should be proud, this is a great piece of work.

Luxap

Great piece man, great readability and material definition!
I love what you did with breaking down the concept and defining the pieces that needed to be done as well.
I struggle with that myself, I tend to dive straight in so thanks for inspiring me to do this as well!

But seriously man, loving the work you do, loving the color contrast, keep it up! 

tylaread

Sick stuff, man. Keep up the good work. Follow you on Art Station!

Sullum97

Yassssss! You deserve that front page brotha! Im so so happy for you! Beautiful work!

Soul Exist

Thanks everyone!

Soul Exist

@Michael_Ingrassia Not exactly and thanks for the tips. Going to do more tests on the side.