Highpoly baking for high poly texturing ddo

NAIMA

Hi , I use 3dsmax 2017 and I have Quixelsuite too , so I was wondering how to use that last to bake the needed textures for the ddo workflow , I have seen thispage http://quixel.se/usermanual/quixelsuite/doku.php?id=inputmaps and checked tuts on how to do , but they all refer to high poly and low poly workflow , for that so far I used xnormal then manually do with photoshop , now I wanted to start use ddo that I got sone time ago but never really started to learn it . I thought might be very good to texture my high poly spaceship I am doing .
do you have any sugestions on how to create the maps. ZI need without a low poly to bake? Also , if I had to do a low poly normally I would exclude certain details like bolts , cables , gruds abd ither details on the high poly model , but since in my hp I have several objects that actually are part of the main model how I am supposed to use those , unwrap or not? Thanks for any answer... .

NAIMA

Any ideas ? sorry for bump .

What mostly I wanted to know is if I can use it to texture the model without have to uvmap every single pieces that are in the order of the hundreds .

musashidan

To use QS you will have to unwrap everything. But because I presume you are rendering in 3dsmax you could just texture all the nuts/bolts etc there using blended box mapping or regular uvw mapping or any other number of methods. Or you could unwrap a single nut/screw/etc, texture in QS, and clone them again in Max.

For high-poly texturing in QS you will need a curvature/AO/worldspace normal/position map.

Synaesthesia

@musashidan is correct - but I'll add that 3DO generates curvature maps, object-space normals, and gradient maps for you.

NAIMA

Thanks I was looking into cube blend maps but uvmapping all its a true pain Unless there is may be an automated system ? So I guess I wont be able to use for high poly ?
sorry still new to all that , but O suppose ddo borns first as a game model texturing tool rather than high poly one... I tried to follow the doo workflow tutorial but Zi am lost with it .
thankyou Synaesthesia , isit anupdate ?  Ds ddo updates automatically?

NAIMA

Btw since I have bought and updated the. Ddo and ndo to latest versions says I have those licences but 3do ? Is. It included ? 

musashidan

Yes, 3do is a separate window that you click the '3do' button to open.

NAIMA

Yeah I was just wondering if I needed a special lcence for it as I saw I only have ddo and ndo licences .i didn't installyet . .

thats thetutorual I was going to follow http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/shading_pipeline_overview/shading_pipeline_overview.htm, but if I could use ddoafter seeing how works would be better , its only that Zi dunno how to make texture maps for all little. Objects , bullons , tube , pipe etc...

musashidan

Neil Blevins (tut you're following) avoids uvs as much as he can, so his methods show how to texture using procedural approaches which don't require unwrapping. You could unwrap the main ship parts like the hull/wings/etc and use Neil methods for all the small parts.

NAIMA

ok so if I unwrap main easy part like panels I can mix match the two things ? then I shoudl be able to use the ddo way and texture it in there and create some texture maps that I can later then use on a rendering?