Can anyone shed light on this discussion on /3/? Form vs anatomy.
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http://boards.4chan.org/3/thread/523760/new-wip-thread#p525232
Been reading through this, and has gotten me confused. There's a few people discussing anatomy vs form. A lot of them are samefagging, and it's genuinely got me confused.
Been reading through this, and has gotten me confused. There's a few people discussing anatomy vs form. A lot of them are samefagging, and it's genuinely got me confused.
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Just come to a forum where people can't hide behind anon and short posts in the first place
Also you might want to avoid using 4chan lingo like "samefagging" outside of 4chan, you probably don't want a potential employer seeing that when looking through your work on Polycount.
A circles 3d form is a sphere, square is a cube, etc.
As far as anatomy is concerned, most parts can be broken down into simple forms for easier understanding/learning.
Thats really about it, there's no real "VS".
4Chan brings up the worst of the internet.
A person may have these terms completely wrong and still do awesome stuff.
The Asaro Head is a great example of this.
Anatomy is like the hard science behind why the shapes and forms are the way they are.
A common example would be the case of naive pencil drawings where the artist attempts to draw every individual hair as opposed to capturing the whole effect of the haircut.
The majority folks are hate filled sociopaths hiding in the shadows; I wouldn't listen to a word these fellows have to say.
I learned the hard way back in 2010, these dudes are mostly 15 year olds who can't do a thing and they jeer at anyone who doesn't adhere to their standards.
/ic/ is even worse and full of pretentious fellows, who don't know what they are talking about.
Never post on /ic/ or /3/
EVER.
The artist talks about anatomy knowledge versus careful observation and practice. He thought it made no difference which approach you take. I think anatomy knowledge cant hurt. Guys like Frank Frazetta had a sound knowledge of how the figure is put together and I think that is obvious in his work.
I feel a lot of places if you post artwork you just get a nice critique that doesn't really do anything. If you post on /ic/, people will tear it to shreds and be super honest. I'm pretty sure if you told someone on polycount that there work is garbage you would get banned or warned. But, what if your work was garbage wouldn't you want to be told that instead of having the delusion it is good.
Calling someone's work on Polycount rubbish is fair game as long as it isn't a personal attack and has some constructive criticism to it.
Back to anatomy, the advantage to learning it is that you become aware of forms you didn't know existed. I wasn't even aware that I had no idea how to draw eyes and mouths until studying muscular diagrams of the face.
Frazetta actually has horrible anatomy, and Scott Eaton would routinely point to massive flaws in his work as examples of poor construction.
That's why you serve critique as a shit sandwich; compliment-critique-compliment structure. Makes it go down way easier!
The posters there are also comprised of 99% salt, and that harsh critique could equally come from a place of jealousy and spite as it could come from someone genuinely trying to help you. Just because the crit is anonymous doesn't mean its worth anything more.
You might get one or two good crits, but IMO its not worth putting yourself in that environment where most of the discussion is bitching and moaning about so and so popular artist who had the audacity to find a niche and work in it instead of sticking to just 100 life studies a day for the rest of their lives. There is this really harmful and anti-fun 'purity' idea that I see being perpetuated, for people who want to work as commercial artists its completely backwards.
Also yeah try to keep the lingo on their site. It doesn't crosspolinate well for obvious reasons