I want to lean Substance Designer\Painter, where should I start?

Monkey_Biz

Hey beautiful people of the internet, Ive been searching for the best inexpensive texturing software for videogames and have narrowed it down to quixel and substance. I have a very good understand of quixel, but I understand its extremely buggy and thought I'd check into SD as an alt.

The problem is, I don't know anything about substance and their YouTube videos didnt really answer my questions (maybe I saw the wrong ones?) Does anyone have links to videos that would be good to learn substances work flow? I'm willing to rent for a month to learn it, but I'd like to learn the basic theory before I commit any money. Any insight would be appreciated!

Oh! Also, I love that quixel can generate normals from photos with (more or less) one click, does substance have any way of doing this too? I am not looking to create a hate thread, I am just looking for the best solution for our indie studio.

Thanks guys, much love!

Ispheria

There is a thing just for substance here http://www.polycount.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=84
You can make a normal map out of a height map just by using a normal node as demonstrated in many, many videos, and you should check out pipesfranco videos, though if you dont understand the official tutorials I kind of doubt it'll help, the official tutorials are pretty easy to understand IMHO

Edit: and Christophe Desse videos though he had a pretty thick accent if i remember correctly so it might be a little hard to understand what he's saying

Tobbo

With Substance Designer it helps to think of the node workflow similarly to stacking layers in Photoshop.

It may also help you to not focus right away on using it to create a material for a baked prop with UVs. Focus on just creating a texture as a texture to start out with.

This video helped me.

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbGPWj6CkFk[/ame]

Jerc

This thread lists tutorials for Substance Designer: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155096&highlight=substance

For Substance Painter, these tutorials should help you too: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB0wXHrWAmCyJEDZLLQvusBxDbskFmh9K

RogerP

To tell you the truth I found the tutorials on their youtube channel more than appropriate to get a good start, really after that is just experimenting for yourself.

Monkey_Biz

Ok, great thanks guys!
@isphera that's perfect thank you so much!
@RogerP ok I'll take a look again

Cay

hey here's some more stuff.. but it really boils down to playing around with it yourself
no tutorial out there will save you the practice part

https://environmentart.wordpress.com

Monkey_Biz

Thanks Cay!
Yeah all the videos are actually a lot better then I thought. I guess I was watching older videos on youtube. Thanks guys for the support!

sziada

tutorials my friend, lots of them,
some really good ones

sprunghunt

Substance designer and substance painter replace Photoshop and the Quixel tools. You can completely texture something within them. So when you compare the two keep in mind that quixel's tools are a plugin for photoshop and you'll need photoshop licences for each person as well as the plugin.

sziada

yeah, but knowing photoshop is good as some studios have not adopted substance yet, always learn your fundamentals and than decide what tool you are going to use

Monkey_Biz

Oh my gosh! I have fallen in love with substance! Thank you guys so much for all the help! I wonder why I haven't been using this all my life! I raise a glass of tea to you all!

Monkey_Biz

sprunghunt wrote: »

Substance designer and substance painter replace Photoshop and the Quixel tools. You can completely texture something within them. So when you compare the two keep in mind that quixel's tools are a plugin for photoshop and you'll need photoshop licences for each person as well as the plugin.

You're absolutly right, I have been concentrating on the "theory" of texturing over the last few months so its been a pretty smooth switch to Substance. I am pretty good with photoshop, but I am always trying to improve my skills.

Kwramm

There's a very good and active Substance Designer group on Google+, which is worth checking out.

MephistonX

tobbo, that was a good little intro video i thought, it makes me really wana try out substance!