Pursuit of Realistic Cinematic Scene UE4

Gandosh

Hello guys! I've been following this forum for a while. So i thought this could be great place to improve. If you have something in your mind. Throw at me

So first experiment started today. I think im going to fill out these 2 room. There is 3 light. Well actually 1, 2 of them emissive material. Also this scene is fully dynamic. No baked lighting.

Gandosh

This is wip scene. i just got my main ideas now im gonna go for Substance Designer for material and of course 3d modeling.

Gandosh

Welp. I abandoned my first scene. So here is the new one WIP btw, Oh yes its based on someone's work. I don't know who did this. But if you know please let me know.

Defaultsound

These are quite nice indeed. Any breakdown on the lighting setup? DFAO, CSM?

Gandosh

Thank you. I used Directional light to get that light ray. Other than that only one sided plane with emissive materrial. I'm using Nvidia VXGI for UE4. Its all dynamic scene. Not a single object baked. 

Gandosh

Sooo.... This one does not feels right. Something went wrong.

Gandosh

and this one was 3 or 4 hours of object moving experiment xD I wasn't sure what to place, or where to place them. Very very lazy study.

Carabiner

Gandosh said:

Sooo.... This one does not feels right. Something went wrong.


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The scale of the tiles on the wall feels very strange and surreal to me — maybe that's it? I've never seen a wall with tiles that large.

Kid.in.the.Dark

@Carabiner  I'm sure tiles aren't that large but they could be easily translated as Panels instead... I'd the the issue is probably more about the flooring and the indents in between the panels being too thick. The wood on the floor looks significantly scaled up so it comes off miniature... just a hunch any way... but that's what gives me the sensation this is very small.

Also it's a very good chance your camera angle is playing a massive part in it as well.

Gandosh

I think you guys are right. Now i see that floor material looks too big.

mats effect

The results from you second to last one look pretty interesting its the scale of the wall tiles and floor that make it look a bit strange. Gona follow this topic though because you have some interesting stuff so far. 

VelvetElvis

I think it is your camera angle plus the tilt-shift blur you have. The largest wall tiles we've dealt with are 1m x 1m square or 1m x 3m rectangle. So they can make them pretty big, expensive as all hell though. This is one manufacturer for example, http://crossvilleinc.com/products/oxide/moro-mat-2/ Though you want to watch your spacing between your tiles when they get this big. Generally tiles are pretty tight together. I think what also throws your scale off is your tiles have the appearance of being over-scaled bath tiles versus actual wall tile of that same size.

Judging by the bench, you are within realistic proportions for your wall tiles. If you fix your depth of field and maybe put in some pendant lights from the ceiling, it will help the space feel grounded.

ZombieDawgs

Gandosh said:

and this one was 3 or 4 hours of object moving experiment xD I wasn't sure what to place, or where to place them. Very very lazy study.

Can you try this without the phone booth and maybe put the bench there instead? Love everything else about this scene though.

Gandosh

Woa, I didn't knew that i was on the front page Thanks guys!

 VelvetElvis said:

I think it is your camera angle plus the tilt-shift blur you have. The largest wall tiles we've dealt with are 1m x 1m square or 1m x 3m rectangle. So they can make them pretty big, expensive as all hell though. This is one manufacturer for example, http://crossvilleinc.com/products/oxide/moro-mat-2/ Though you want to watch your spacing between your tiles when they get this big. Generally tiles are pretty tight together. I think what also throws your scale off is your tiles have the appearance of being over-scaled bath tiles versus actual wall tile of that same size.

Judging by the bench, you are within realistic proportions for your wall tiles. If you fix your depth of field and maybe put in some pendant lights from the ceiling, it will help the space feel grounded.

Next time i'll use real panels not just textures xD Thanks for the link btw!

Gandosh

ZombieDawgs said:

Gandosh said:

and this one was 3 or 4 hours of object moving experiment xD I wasn't sure what to place, or where to place them. Very very lazy study.

Can you try this without the phone booth and maybe put the bench there instead? Love everything else about this scene though.

There you go! Wish i had my other scenes  

snake85027

really nice, looks like a photo

dorodo

Awesome! Would love to see a breakdown or a little bit of the behind the scenes. Keep it up!

nickcomeau

Just curious, why is the light facing the bench? I feel either the bench would be facing the other direction or the light would. Because they both want to be facing the street right? But other than that, it's looking very nice, keep it up!

n4uj

nickcomeau said:

Just curious, why is the light facing the bench? I feel either the bench would be facing the other direction or the light would. Because they both want to be facing the street right? But other than that, it's looking very nice, keep it up!

Ohh the little details... I completelly agree on that.

By the way, how did you do the rain? are those particles right?

Gandosh

nickcomeau said:

Just curious, why is the light facing the bench? I feel either the bench would be facing the other direction or the light would. Because they both want to be facing the street right? But other than that, it's looking very nice, keep it up!

Thank you. Can you explain to me further? i'm new to environment. 

by the way.
The whole scene was just this. I was building just road then i got lazy xD

Gandosh

n4uj said:

nickcomeau said:

Just curious, why is the light facing the bench? I feel either the bench would be facing the other direction or the light would. Because they both want to be facing the street right? But other than that, it's looking very nice, keep it up!

Ohh the little details... I completelly agree on that.

By the way, how did you do the rain? are those particles right?

For this it was just photoshop brush xD 
Right now i'm working on particles. Nvidia VXGI is not palying well with particle effects.
Also i'm making a video for this scene. Keep in touch guys!

Gandosh

New stuff! Had to make short commercial video about juice. So i got bored and played around a little bit

Gandosh

Apple in the forest_2 still in wip. 

Gandosh

Somehow UE4 directional light bugging or engine itself is bugging. I can see shadows and lights very clear in my editor. But when i render it out some shadows disappeared and messing with my whole scene. Not sure what is happening...

Joopson

I'm loving these.

Gandosh

Oh this architectural stuff is hard. Interior lighting with VXGI is pretty confusing. Emissive materials always leaking and penetrating walls. 

Gandosh

"Everytime when i use emmissive material light penetrates all wals. No matter how thick that wall is..."

This was caused by multibounce. If i set too high light multibounce, it penetrates wall and bleed all over it.