Longbow Archer Set

JasonLavoie

Hey all,

I had such a fun time working on the Kin Slayer sword for the workshop, that I wanted to take another stab at it and work on a proper set. I'll be focusing on the Archer for this one, Longbow weapon and a Helmet (with an Alt).



Here is what I have so far, did this over the weekend and I'm hoping to have this wrapped up by next weekend. Going to start on the longbow next before I head into the texturing phase (some more added normal details as well as clean up).

JO420

That's a really cool design. I think if they add it, it will sell well. One thing though,and this is purely an opinion thing. But the old crusader helm might be better suited for a Man Ar arms. It's mostly that nose gaurd, I can see it getting in an archers line of sight when' firing. Looks brilliant f you decide to go with its

JO420

Hey Jason, do you happen to know how to rig the bows for the game? I gave the longbow a look and It seemed a bit complicated. 11-15 bones or so.

elwebbaro

Looking great so far.

Are you using the actual archer bust? The hood looks like it might clip with equipment mounted on the back, so watch out for that.

JasonLavoie

elwebbaro - Thanks, and yes I am using both the agatha (thicker head) and mason head mesh. In the screenshot it def is clipping, but i think i missaligned the head a bit, in max it fits well. Once I get it into chiv i'll make sure to check Thanks!

J0420 - Thanks for the feedback. I figured it would look a bit out of place, but I liked how the overall look was so i'm hoping people wont get too offended if I kept the helmet as is.

I haven't messed with the longbow yet but I have heard the bows are the most complicated to figure out. Once I get cracking on it i'll letcha know how it goes, could be a nightmare haha.

Thanks again everyone! More updates coming!

JO420

JasonLavoie wrote: »

elwebbaro - Thanks, and yes I am using both the agatha (thicker head) and mason head mesh. In the screenshot it def is clipping, but i think i missaligned the head a bit, in max it fits well. Once I get it into chiv i'll make sure to check Thanks!

J0420 - Thanks for the feedback. I figured it would look a bit out of place, but I liked how the overall look was so i'm hoping people wont get too offended if I kept the helmet as is.

I haven't messed with the longbow yet but I have heard the bows are the most complicated to figure out. Once I get cracking on it i'll letcha know how it goes, could be a nightmare haha.

Thanks again everyone! More updates coming!

Fair enough Im always a bit of a stickler Excellent design none the less. Good luck with the skinning.

JasonLavoie

No worries JO420, it's good to hear and you are def right haha, I may play around with it some more as well, I just like how it's breaking up the face haha.

Dylan Brady

those bakes, so clean 0_0

CandyStripes05

looks dope

Ramseus

I "rigged" two of three of the base bows, all I did was copypasta the weights in Max from the rigged longbow, kept the bones the same, doesn't look like it should work but it does. Not even joking, hehe.

JasonLavoie

Sounds good I was looking at it today and it seems pretty straight forward, will be fun to test out!

JasonLavoie

Here is where I am at with the longbow right now, still need to adjust the ropes (look like poop right now) but should be baking out the low pretty soon.

JasonLavoie

More updates, got the inital bake done for the bow... clean up time and then onto texturing, rigging and testing

JO420

Looks really cool.

Dylan Brady

damn ur fast! :P

JasonLavoie

Haha thanks all!

Dylan - This has been a good practice with trying to do this set in good time while still trying to nail down a good quality bar, this has been so fun to work on, even more so than the kin slayer.



Here is a first pass at the diffuse and normal for the Bow. I still need to clean up some of the normal map (the leather needs some lovin) and than I need to create the spec map. Once that is done I can finally focus on the helmet and than rig everything up and test in-engine.

I'd really like to have this wrapped up by end of weekend

Bek

Looks great but that type of wood is wrong for a bow; it has to bend significantly without snapping. It needs flexibility — look at some of those deep grooves; it wouldn't work. Bow wood is fine and layered.

But if you're not worried about that then whatevs; still looks cool Maybe add more darkening / dirt around the bottom end of the bow, as it would get rested on the ground quite often.

JasonLavoie

Thanks Bek for the critques I can tweak the cracks, I was thinking it may break up the texture a bit when in first person, I'll mess around with it

I appreciate it the feedback!

lucashug

Nice work man! I really like the hood

JasonLavoie

Thanks lucas

I've been working on the helmet texture (and updating the bow texture, added spec etc.) I still need to go through and create my gloss map for the helmet, but I'll be starting up on the Alt texture for the hood up mesh next.



These shots are still done in Marmoset though, so once I get my textures at a solid state, I'll bring everything into unreal and do some much needed tweaks :P

JasonLavoie

One last update for tonight... not super happy with the hood up but that'll be the alt version. I messed around with a basic checker design (i went through a couple) and I'm still not settled on it, but I need to start rigging these up and getting them into udk to test out.



Let me know whatcha think

CandyStripes05

like it better then solid blue, but the checkers makes it feel like a modern hoodie to me for some reason - especially in the version when it's down

DireWolf

How did your translate the chainmail to low poly so well? It looks thick and strong!

JasonLavoie

Scott - Thanks for the feedback good sir I def need to mess around with the design on the hood, I was having trouble with it. Once i get this in game and test it I'll go back to the design before I submit to the workshop. Thanks!

Direwolf - I think I made the base normal (just the cowl without the chainmail) kinda puffy, and then when I baked out my chainmail and overlayed it, it used the thickness of the cowl bake and I think that kinda helped it out a lot. I added some big wrinkles as well that may help sell the material, not too sure though

Thanks all!

JasonLavoie

Finally submitted The Heart-Piercer Set

Please vote for it here - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=434511499



Thanks everyone for checking this out!

JO420

Up voted! Really really cool final result, I love the way your textures come out,really nice and clean.

GRAT0R

Awesome work, I wonder how did you manage to fit both helmet versions in one texture set and still accomplished great detail and resolution. Looking forward to seeing it live!

JasonLavoie

JO420 - Thanks JO, your last couple submissions have been super stellar!

GRATOR - Each helmet has its own texture map :P

JO420

Mind putting up the diffuse maps to look at? I would not mind giving them a good look.

CandyStripes05

turned out great!

JasonLavoie

JO420 - Nothing too fancy

Scott - Thanks buddy!

Prime8

JasonLavoie wrote: »

One last update for tonight... not super happy with the hood up but that'll be the alt version. I messed around with a basic checker design (i went through a couple) and I'm still not settled on it, but I need to start rigging these up and getting them into udk to test out.



Let me know whatcha think

Awesome stuff!
Is this one rendered in engine or your 3D program?
I personally prefer how the fabric materials look here.

JasonLavoie

It's in Marmoset. Overall the materials are nicer in Marmoset, I met the fabric pretty specy in-game. I could edit it if people really dislike it :P

Prime8

I see, thank you.
Don't think that people dislike it, therefore not worth bothering changing it.

JasonLavoie

Just wanted to give a big thank you to everyone who voted on the Heart-Piercer, mucho appreciated!

sordelko

Nice work!
U are pro