Clint-2 Revolver
polycounter lvl 9
Hey all. Doing a combo of modeling improvement and PBR learning. So far just the high poly is done. Let me know what ya'll think!
Concept by: zhang pengzhen (check out his spectacular stuff here)
Concept by: zhang pengzhen (check out his spectacular stuff here)
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Aside from that, keep rockin dude!
And maybe I'm a moth, but I love lights/LEDs on guns.
@BlazeF - Thank you! You're talking about the 50ish rib pieces where the bullets are? Maybe if I lowered the amount of them that would help not seem so noisy? Next up is the low poly!
@Electric - Thanks man! I'm using your project as inspiration to make this as good as it can be! I just picked up Substance Painter so I really want to see the affect that can have. From the few videos I've glanced at this will make the texturing "easier-ish" but more realistic in terms of applying scratches and ware. I hope 2 leds are enough for your moth-ness :P
The Low poly however needs a lot of work. I sometimes have the same issue and its takes me a few attempts to get a good and reasonable polycount.
Polycounts these days are not as important but topology still is. Hope you don't mind I did a bit of feedback, hope it helps.
Onto practicing PBR and substance painter!
You need to watch your edges more in your high poly. Some of those edges were far too tight compared to others. Tighter edges make sense for the sights area, but you really do need those chunky edges to the parts that are far away from the camera in fpv view otherwise aliasing! You also have a few things incorrect in comparison to the concept. Some pieces were missing and one thing that really stands out to me, is the bullet itself. At the rear of the bullet casing you've made it very thin when compared to the concept it's thick like a regular irl bullet.
For a 2K tex map, you've wasted quite a bit of space. There are a lot of parts you could of used symmetry on. Looking at it now, the gun isn't a-symmetrical at all. I personally would of just overlapped the entire left side with the right excluding the rear/sights area. For example the handle pieces, (if fpv) only one of them would be seen at a time, probably during reloading. If this was a (tpv) weapon it would be really small on screen you may as well overlap UV's anyway.
Those parts which are pretty much black on the bottom right of the UV, those could have been down-scaled dramatically to save space. There is also a large amount of black space between UV shells so you could of had a tighter pack for sure. I think you could of saved a good 30%+ of space doing these things. You've also got a few normal errors, the screws area around the plate above the fire selector and especially that really harsh error with the intersection part inbetween the main pieces.
Anyway looks good so far, looking forward to see it finished. I've seen your artwork for a while now and you are making good improvements
@Stirls - thanks man! i've been working at improving them so looks like it's paying off!
@tynew - thank you for the huge breakdown! i thought i was careful with making my edges pretty soft but good to keep thinking about for next time! i was going to mirror the uv's but i was going back and forth and decided to just see how it will look when not mirrored. figured i'd mirror my next weapon and do a comparison of the pro's and cons. in terms of uvs themselves, yeah i agree. those black shells are the insides of the chamber which could really have just been minimized more. i thought about the parts the player would see while unwrapping but i kept thinking even density when really there are some areas the player just won't see anyways. something to remember for next time
@primnull/alex - i see where you're coming from but hopefully when i'm done it will appear more lifelike. i was thinking about doing a basic nerf version after this to showcase it in two different situations.
Chase- To add in the roughness and metalness, what do you do? do you paint them in, inside photoshop? Same question with the scratches, .
Not much to say on the texturing as you haven't started the roughness and metalness, but it's a good start. That bake is sweet.
@sziada - Thank you! I worked really hard to make sure I had the fundamentals down again so I'm super happy it shows
@ae. - I really appreciate that! Did some more work on the albedo today before work. I toned some of the edge damage back cause I think I was getting a little too liberal with it.
@ElectricEchoes - That's awesome to hear
Michelangelo is quite the party dude, excellent choice.
the metal in your concept and in real life is a lot more matte. and the scratches are a lot sharper and logically fit around where the weapon would get holstered. Your scratches right now seems to be really low res and blurry and imo way too spread out. You should really reduce the scratches on your painted section, if you notice from your concept it's only scratched very finely on a few edges, the rest of the paint is so much scratched but faded out.
The steel underneath the painted section would be much smoother, right now it's reading that the purple paint has be scratched off to another layer of silver paint. Same thing for the chamber, it should be very smooth with a some oily thumb prints of dirt on it.
Guns are actually pretty resilient machines. The scratches that appear on them are contrated to parts that jutt out or come in contact with another part of metal.
^ scratches are very fine and sharp and around moving parts especially.
^ again scratches are along the slide, safety, hammer, and areas where the holster would meet the metal. Also notice the matte highlight on the paint.
you could make the chamber base metal like the steel on the lens, a pure white roughness and black albedo with smudges and dirt on the roughness map.
Let me know what ya'll think!
Second angle