I'm modeling this, could you tell me what it is?

pmiller001

Hey guys and gals!
I'm modeling something new, to ..EXPAND MY HORIZONS!!..NS...NS...NS.....(Imagine it trailing off).

This is the first thing i'm modeling in 3ds Max, and I'm really enjoying it so far.

but I don't know what it is, could you guys tell me, so I could look up some more reference. haha.

Luke003

It's a cross section of a Boeing 747 airliner. And that is an Acura NSX in the bottom.

Zwebbie

C'mon man, it has directions to where you can find the answer right there on the image ;-)

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/230825/n642nw-northwest-airlines-boeing-747-200/

pmiller001

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/5/4/1281454.jpg

pmiller001

Wait @ zwebbie it was in the image?

Neoekamp

It's very clearly part of a giant mecha peanut!

The car on the bottom powers the mecha, like a hamster wheel.

pmiller001

Blockout. This is my first time in 3ds MAX I like it so far. DO you all have any tips Going forward on this thing?

Aga22

here's a tip. model what you see. what's missing from the picture? make it.

also, use more segments. the periphery of the object is really rough.

.Wiki

Neoekamp wrote: »

It's very clearly part of a giant mecha peanut!

Nooo its a large VW Bus! A really large version, too heavy for even the largest bridges.

martygalinskas3d

pretty sure it's the cross section of Dr. Evils "space ship"
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWQZhUmmRw[/ame]

pmiller001

Still learning 3ds max as I go along. ITs a neat little program. Although I feel I could do this in maya just as well. OH WELL. Learning another program could never hurt!

pmiller001

Guys, this is turning out to be really freakin fun.

sushi

before you go any further, I would recommend adding a lot more horizontal cross sections on the outer shell

pmiller001

Is that because of the faceting?

sushi

most aircraft including this 747 have a very smoothly shaped outer shell. It almost looks like an egg. I would suggest taking another look at the reference image you posted?

pmiller001

I tried smoothing groups. I've never seen it before, and it looks like its a very useful function. ARe there times I should,should not , use smoothing groups?

pmiller001

pmiller001

I'm having WAY too much fun in 3ds max. There are some features that are outrageous. turbosmooth? more like TURBOSWAG.

angelofdeath1000

I would say your I Beams are a little to thick compared to the reference, and you outer shell could use some work, it looks to jagged where as the reference is a lot smoother.

Other than that looks good so far.

pmiller001

pmiller001

Doxturtle

the bottom is very flat compared to the reference

pmiller001

Dox- you're absoutely right. I'ma get right on that.

pmiller001

pmiller001

good news everyone! i figured out what was bothenig me.
I knew something was bothering me when i looked at this, but i couldnt put a finger on it. I wasn sure where to go from here, Then a friend of mind who isent even an artist looked at it and within 10 seconds said.
"Where are the windows?"
I said "what?"
"This thing, it needs windows, its a jet right?"
ding ding ding. I was really stinking excited about this. I'm going to do that later, but i'm documenting it here because YEA! WINDOWS!

pmiller001

pmiller001

Hey ya'll I really like this so far. I think i'm done for now, So i can take these skills to something else. Otherwise. I think I learned quite a bit.
The most notable thing is how to use 3DS Max. It only took a week, but MAN is that program cool!
I think i'll do all my hardsurface modeling in that program.

gsokol

Wait...thats it? Why not try to go all the way and texture it up?

Also, the outer rim of the plane is still pretty faceted at the top...maybe add a few more loops to smoothen that silhouette a little bit.

pmiller001

edit:
sokol i dont know WHAT I was thinking my man. I dont care IF my arm hurts! I'ma get this thing even MORE done.

Heres what i'm going to do, and I want to know if you think this process will work. I've never really tried it before.

I'm going to seperate each mesh thats been modeled, (not the duplicates). Then zero them out.

>Then I'm going to bring them into 3d coat and retopologize each one.

>Then I'm going to unwrap the uvs in UV Layout/Maya. And Place them as well

>Then I'm going to bake it in Xnormal. (I was reading EArthquakes thread "you're making me hard" about baking normals. And If i'm understnading it right, I've got to use and averaged projection mesh. And I do that by using a cage. When I get to that bridge I'll cross it, but its a good idea to make note of it here. )

> After THAT, i'm going to put an id map for my next step

>I'm going to bring it into DDO to put textures on it.

> I'm going to use NDO to add in any deatils It needs. Rivets, indentations etc etc.

> THen I'm going to render it in marmoset.



What do you think? I have a hard time retoplogize any hard surface thing so I know that's where my troubles going to start so I'll definitely be on the lookout for that.

I want to be able to present this proudly. I think I should have it done in the next 2-3 days. Sound doable?

pmiller001

so apparently this is a very common workflow. Thats good. The only part i'm "worried" about is the baking normals part. I've yet to do it without artifacts and wobbly lines. I've read Earthquakes threads on it however, and it's given me a new confidence. Reopologyo starts.....tonight.