TOWER - Mothership

GeneWiz

I'm going to try to build something resemble closely to Mothership from Homeworld.

here's some sketches I've done to kick start this small project.



i have developed some concepts and started to list out the assets require for the scene.

here's some modelling done





modelling of the exterior is almost done.


there are not much progress today, started to model the interior.
I intend to keep interior as low poly as possible since it'll be bloom and overexposed with blue lights everywhere, homeworld fan boy will understand how it is.


I left out the docking platform and frigate docking bay at the moment, once I have modelled frigates and fighter, I'll have more accurate measurements to proceed with those.

skyline5gtr

mmm cant wait

CougarJo

Haa love the design of the ship Looking forward for the finished scene!

chaitanyak

wow.. impressive start

GeneWiz

thanks for the support guys, i'll be a little bit slower for the coming days, will post updates as soon as i had done some progress.

GeneWiz

finally finish modelling of all ships. Here's the assault frigate and interceptor

GeneWiz

some docking platform design...

multi dock platform


service docking platform

Viktor-N13

nice

jenninexus

way cool!

Aerial_Knight

Dam! I like that

Mr.Cash

wow. damn nice shapes!

PEET?

This is looking great! Nice job. Do you have a rendering plan?

Grizzle

Very simple and nice spaceships! Keep it up!

GeneWiz

hi guys, thanks for the comments, unfortunately im back to my hometown to celebrate Chinese new year, it'll be slow progress.

hi PEET what do you mean by rendering plan?

GeneWiz

been working on the UV by hand for the past weeks, trying to maximize the texture space.

Zyner

Awesome work! Can I ask what plugin/software do you use to pack them UV's? Or do you arrange them manually?

Drone2222

GeneWiz, thinking about unwrapping and packing all those UV's by hand is giving me an ulcer, I'm glad you survived....

GeneWiz

yes guys, this is just part of the UV i unwrapped, each ships actually has UV chn2 as well to be atlas by the end of the day.

i did everything using max native UV tool, all by hands. and yes, im still alive @Drone2222 i wonder why too...

i wanted to do so because i still cant get optimal UV layout that i love from unwrella and flatiron, this is NOT recommended, its very time consuming and tiring LOL.

Apo_duck

Great work GeneWiz ! I want to see your floor ASAP .
For your light map, do you create a second uv set ? I try in sketchfab to upload an object with two uvs set... it wasn't a succes... the only way I see, it is to use the same uv set for texture and lightmap. . i'm wrong ? It's possible to render a scene with two uv set ?

GeneWiz

thanks! i've found that if you export as DAE, i think the uv2 is exported as well, i'm not very sure, worst come to worst, i'll just bake everything to UV1 and do some cleanup there, that is also the reason i didnt spread too many ID for uv1 so that i can keep track of more unique shape for this possible resolution.

Apo_duck

Yes, i think that use 1uv set it's the best issue.
Good luck your start is very cool !

GeneWiz

did a little experiment, it works! UV2 is displayed as UV0 on sketchfab


i'm following the tutorial here...
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhGFQ9F1A-k[/ame]

open Collada tool can be found here
https://github.com/KhronosGroup/OpenCOLLADA/wiki/OpenCOLLADA-Tools

Apo_duck

Great !
That's a good news, thank for your share !

PadreZippo

Great work, glad our multiple UVs are working for you, although that tutorial is a bit outdated...

It would be awesome to see your WIPs embedded in 3D, instead of just screenshots O:)

GeneWiz

@PadreZippo sure! once i have some WIP can be upload i'll do so

putka

Nice work, but I have a question for OP or anyone else . The UV's look really great and all, very nicely packed up. But don't you need some room for padding? I'm pretty sure I would get visible seams like that, especially in Unity after zooming out with mipmaps enabled.

Thanks

TheRealFroman

Hey man, so doing stitching and packing lightmaps by hand sucks absolutely. In the future consider using 3rd-party automatic pack tools like IPackThat or UV Layout to get the job done. You are taking years off your life-span by doing it the hard way! >.<

Here a short video showing one of these programs in action. It's UV Layout tied into Max with a MaxScript. Has very good functionality, just not good UI, or the most perfect mathamatical packing algorithm. (But it still does great work anyway)

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCY_2A_T1CU[/ame]

IPackThat is a software tool that unlike UV Layout, has better UI and final pack programming. However it does not have the 3D UV editing tool like UV Layout does. (Something that really comes in handy imo) Feel free to check it out ^^ cool work by the way! Homeworld is an excellent idea.

rezusen

You need a good texture for dam good UV's

GeneWiz

Nice work, but I have a question for OP or anyone else . The UV's look really great and all, very nicely packed up. But don't you need some room for padding? I'm pretty sure I would get visible seams like that, especially in Unity after zooming out with mipmaps enabled.

@putka, yes, padding is needed, the reason it looks so packed in my UV is because the UV is prepared for large atlases such as 2k to 4k, i still leave 2-4 px padding but it cant be seen with big textures like this. anyway, if the textures are happened to scale down, what i usually do is to manually touch up the UV just a little bit, or i would 'extrude' the edge pixels to hide the seam better.

GeneWiz

TheRealFroman wrote: »

Hey man, so doing stitching and packing lightmaps by hand sucks absolutely. In the future consider using 3rd-party automatic pack tools like IPackThat or UV Layout to get the job done. You are taking years off your life-span by doing it the hard way! >.<

Here a short video showing one of these programs in action. It's UV Layout tied into Max with a MaxScript. Has very good functionality, just not good UI, or the most perfect mathamatical packing algorithm. (But it still does great work anyway)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCY_2A_T1CU

IPackThat is a software tool that unlike UV Layout, has better UI and final pack programming. However it does not have the 3D UV editing tool like UV Layout does. (Something that really comes in handy imo) Feel free to check it out ^^ cool work by the way! Homeworld is an excellent idea.

thanks for the suggestion, this thing is not cheap =/ but definitely cool!

GeneWiz

rezusen wrote: »

You need a good texture for dam good UV's

of course! I intend to do this!

GeneWiz

i know that i've been slack off and slow on this thread, i have no excuses, i am packed with my day job and i have very little time to spare for my own hobby, but i didn't stop working on anything, i've been working on smaller piece of work such as this recently. =P

http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2344623#post2344623

garcellano

I don't think I saw this thread a while back. Just saw the top post, looking forward to seeing this one added.

GeneWiz

dug out the project while cleaning up my folders, still love this project, jumping back in and proceed with texturing now!

GeneWiz