Dragon-need help!

Magichobo666

hey started modeling a dragon and well i think i got the general mesh done but that's from my eye, i need to know if there's any way i can bring more shape and life to this little creature:poly142::poly142::poly142:.

there no head ATM as i plan to add that on sepratly, and this is meant for unity and i can add more polys if i need to.

Cglewis

sweet a dragon i like it!

what concept or concepts are you going of off?

but my knee jerk reaction is that it is too thin looking add some mass to this bad boy!

Jet_Pilot

how about wings, spikes, claws?

Crazy_pixel

Cool
I think you could give his rear legs a ring loop too, this is better for deformations.

Good luck with your project :thumbup:

Brian "Panda" Choi

What concept are you using?

Magichobo666

hey sorry for late replys, for concept i havent as i,m programing it to be editable but u could say im getting the basic shape to look something like this.


thanks crazy_pixel and good luck with yours

heres what it looks like atm...i know WTF is this, i went more into programing, but i will now work on the head and body shape adding the claws and spikes


the sliders for the colors are basic RGB channels.

Magichobo666

ok heres an update on the mesh, giving it more shape and musle also added in the feat.





thank you for your comments they really do help, i love feedback, helps people make more out of things.

Cglewis

This dragon needs some poly steroids STAT!
you are missing so much of the shape of the concept, not to mention the size. you need to beef up your dragon.

Really look at that concept and maybe in different colors paint over the different shapes you see in it and try to mimic that form in the model.

Brian "Panda" Choi

Do you understand what we may mean when we say "focus on the shapes of the silhouette?"

Magichobo666

yeah i get you...i will need to atleast smooth this model and then i can start adding the shape and detail, i will load in the image also so i can start getting some proportions correct.

Justin Meisse

It needs to be big, muscular, powerful. Based on the concept you posted you should bulk up the shoulders more, the way they currently taper in makes him look weak.

Comparative anatomy wise I'd say the D&D type dragon's body is the hind quarters of a lion and the arms & torso of a body builder. It's always a good idea to research animal anatomy when doing fantasy creatures, it will give you some ideas how to tackle the musculature.

Don't worry about sticking extremely close to real world anatomy, most winged dragons don't have the actual musculature to support their wings but we mostly accept what we see because it's cool looking.

PyrZern

C'mon, give him enormous rib cage and strong shoulders, six-packs and tight oblique muscles.

Magichobo666

Ok, thank you all for the feed back, trying my best to use all of it XD.

i feel like i have gotten alot more shape into this, may be hard to see in the pictures but its alot more fatter/ beefcake.

the detail will be added on with bumps later on in the making.

Brian "Panda" Choi

Do you have a sculpting program at all?

Magichobo666

i have sculptress which i'm comfortable with.

wait should i do a hight poly version in sculptress and then export the bump maps onto the low poly version in maya?

Brian "Panda" Choi

Well, it's a question about how well executed you want this dragon to be. If the character customization system is priority, I could totally understand the perceived "programmer art." Though if you want something that looks as awesome as possible, I would recommend either getting this hand-painted to a high quality, or sculpt all the assets you need in hi-poly.

Silhouette definitely looks better, I'm starting to see the gestural forms of major muscle groups and of the pose.

Magichobo666

this is more programmable art, like the players will be able to change the scale of the leg,tail,head...ect joins changing the overall look. but i can try adding some hand painted textures and bumps...but it might stretch when being scaled.

Brian "Panda" Choi

If it's just to create an executable art technology, I'm going to say just focus on getting the system created. Use whatever art is useabe.

On that note, would you be up for a volunteer artist to work with you on making dragon art assets for you to use?

Magichobo666

hell yeah i would be up for a volunteer, atm its just me and my friend working on this little project.

the game is one where you create your own dragon and say survive in a world where u build up your lair and weapons to defeat bigger bosses.