Critique wanted on female bust

Chantel-sky

Hey guys!

Throughout December I have been actively sculpting a female face every day to improve as I aspire to be a character artist when I finish my degree.

I would love some critique on these last 2 female busts I created. (second image is my most recent one).
One thing I know I need to improve on is the eyelids and getting a nicer shape.

I was aiming to create a face that you would often find in video games.

Thanks in advance

BagelHero

Got no targeted advice for you right now, but I thought I'd share some resources:
Easy eyes:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA4QziHEk8E[/ame]

General anatomy/proportion tips and tricks (make sure to check the "secrets" tabs!)
https://www.anatomy4sculptors.com/anatomy.php

Nice planes of the face reference:


Keep up the good work, looking forward to seeing more!

Chantel-sky

@BagelHero Hopefully others will find those resources useful

I came across a download of John Asaro - Planes of the head that someone had taken high res pictures from all different angles which has definitely helped me .. if anyone is interested, I have included the link

http://www.mediafire.com/download/6a4gu147t4lmc4f/John+Asaro+-+Planes+of+the+Head.rar

BagelHero

Ooh, thanks, I came across a link for that a while back, but lost it soon after. I'll save it this time, hehe.

carlobarley

nice proportions!

hmmm i think you maybe losing the roundness and barrell of the mouth
as well as the roundness and some minor planes on the lips.

some refs





gj keep it up!
ty chantel-sky for the link

Chantel-sky

@ Carlobarley does that apply for both of my female busts? After the first one I did a bunch of mouth sculpts and then started on the second one.

my lips are quite small comparing to the 2nd image though ...

Thanks for the critique, I'll take it on board

carlobarley

i think on the first one you maybe losing the barrell of the mouth shape~
second one you retain the barrell of the mouth but i think the lips are losing its forms,

heres a scan i did for valerie winslow's anatomy book regarding lips
peace!

Chantel-sky

@ Carlobarley Thanks, looks like the scan will be useful

Chantel-sky

As December has finished, this is the last face that I've completed.


And unpainted version

theStoff

This is definitely looking better tan the first 2 faces you posted. The first thing I notice is that the front of the face is very flat. Try looking at it from the top and bottom and compare it to some photos to make sure you're getting good curvature. It also looks like the image is in orthographic. It might be good to see it in perspective since I find things tend to look wrong in orthographic view in any angle besides direct front and side. This makes it a bit harder to point out anatomical problems.

Keep it up though, you're making progress.

Chantel-sky

@Kosh_fortsirk Thanks, I was aiming for a similar style to the way Hazardousarts does his female faces, as he's one of my favourite artists.

Yeah, it is in orthographic view.. I read somewhere or heard it in a video tutorial to not sculpt in perspective view so I forgot about using it altogether. Is it best to present the busts in perspective view?

I think if I added a faint nasolabial fold, it'd make the face not look as flat though.

Thanks for your critique

JimmyRustler

I actually like the first post sculpt better, because of the proportion is better there, but the shape of the mouth is a bit off, as carlobarley mentioned.

The last sculpt looks fine from the front, but from the side, it looks really off, especially at her cheek and mouth area. The lips shape is definitely much better, but a bit too up in the front, i think.

I made you a paintover, hope this helps.


I'm learning anatomy as well, so some of my point may looks worse for some people.

ps: hey, i notice from the file name that this is Asami. Is it Asami from Korra? Because i'm doing a bust of Asami as well, haha.

Chantel-sky

@JimmyRustler I agree that the cheek at the mouth area looks off. I was trying to maintain that nice curvature that women have from the 3/4 side view.

The only thing is the face looks quite flat in the paintover compared to the sculpture Carlobarley posted.

Yeah it was just an Asami inspired bust, Gonna miss that show so much
Looking forward to seeing your Asami bust though!

I've been working on Satsuki Kiryuin from Kill La Kill.. I think the face looks a lot better on the side view (posted in orthographic view)

BagelHero

A bit better, but this is something:


Your noses from the side also have a tendency to be rather large when put in proportion with the rest of the face.

Keep it up!

Chantel-sky

@BagelHero I always forget about the upper lip extending out further, as some females don't always have it.

Yeah I did notice the noses are always too big, I always end up having to scale them in lol

BagelHero

My answer to the lips thing is to always use a tonne of reference when you're not going for an ideal until you understand how/why it works and still looks natural and appealing.

Chantel-sky

Hi again
I took into consideration the feedback I've received and sculpted this face today, It'll be of Motoko Kusagnagi from Ghost in the shell.