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Hey all!

With Far Cry 4 releasing today (hope everyone is enjoying the game!), we can finally show off what we worked on :)! I'll try and get some other artists from the different Ubi studios involved to contribute as well!

For my part, I worked as a Level Artist on the very different Shangri-La portion of the game out of the Ubisoft Toronto studio. I was responsible for world building, set dressing, debug/polish and some modeling/texturing of our 2nd Shangri-La mission in the screenshots below:

More screens and info on the map on my updated website! www.jobyek.com

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If you have any critiques/questions, shoot!

Enjoy!

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  • pixelpatron
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    pixelpatron polycounter lvl 7
    No breakdowns?
  • JobyeK
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    JobyeK polycounter lvl 9
    Any specific breakdowns you're looking for or wanting to know how we did something? Can't post wires or anything unfortunately :/.
  • inflict3d
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    inflict3d polycounter lvl 4
    wooow, looks picturesquely!
    also, I like that 'bloody' grass and leaves :)
  • lincolnhughes
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    lincolnhughes polycounter lvl 10
    I completed the level art for these. All modeling / texturing / lighting was done internally by Ubisoft.
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  • slosh
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    slosh quad damage
    What does "level art" mean here? You just placed the assets and molded the terrain? Or did you also do the terrain and flora textures too? The screenshots look great btw!
  • lincolnhughes
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    lincolnhughes polycounter lvl 10
    Being a level artist usually entails taking existing art assets and populating the world with them, in such a way that they work for both composition and game-play.
  • adam
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    adam polycounter lvl 15
    There's a boner party in my pants. I'm about 2 hours in to the game so far and I'm really liking it. I *loved* FC3, and I feel FC4 is already an improvement.
  • CarlK3D
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    CarlK3D polycounter lvl 5
    Really nice shots! cant wait to play the game.
    I guess to answer slosh's question "level artist" & "level designer" are the same thing, just using different terms
  • PixelMasher
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    PixelMasher high dynamic range
    here is some of mine :) same as Lincoln I am a level artist there. all the assets were created by other artists. responsible for layout/composition, terrain sculpting and world building etc.

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  • JobyeK
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    JobyeK polycounter lvl 9
    CarlK3D wrote: »
    Really nice shots! cant wait to play the game.
    I guess to answer slosh's question "level artist" & "level designer" are the same thing, just using different terms

    Nono, those are two different roles at Ubi. We work in tandem with the level designer to flesh out the gameplay spaces. They usually do the initial blockouts of spaces for gameplay, handle AI scripting, encounters, etc. And we work with them to maintain and add to the gameplay intentions, do terraforming, do 1st pass art blockouts, world building, etc.

    And nice stuff guys! I remember seeing that destroyed temple island way back when, when it was still greyblock :P!
  • grimsonfart
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    grimsonfart polycounter lvl 4
    deciever, really nice stuff you got here. I have a breakdown request! Dem pine trees, and how they intersected the planes seems like a mystery to me. Did you guys render out a flat branch, then render out the needle sticks on the side and combined them to create that nice look?
  • JobyeK
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    JobyeK polycounter lvl 9
    I didn't work on trees, we had a dedicated team in Montreal just working on our Next-gen and current-gen trees (they're both drastically different). AFAIK, on CG it's the more cheaper/traditional approach with simple planes, but on NG they could push it much further, still using planes, but could push much more...as in have planes for almost every leaf (and on top of that every leave moves!) and I think the pine tree just have more intersecting planes yeah. I'll ask one of our veg guys though to clarify a bit more, and more importantly...art dump his work :D!
  • instg8r
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    instg8r polycounter lvl 8
    Beautiful stuff! Enjoyed FC3 and am looking forward to putting some time in with 4 this weekend :)
  • Torch
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    Torch greentooth
    I don't want to watch any reviews on the game as I'm trying to experience everything first hand, but couldn't resist checking this thread out. It looks incredible!
  • Poseidon8734
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    Poseidon8734 polycounter lvl 4
    Really really cool but could you maybe put some AO pass renders and contours? Besides that I might actually get it! :D
  • warxsnake
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    warxsnake polycounter lvl 8
    Hey guys!
    Here's my contribution to the art dump and Far Cry 4!

    I did the weapons on FC4, this time I had a someone (John Zhang) alongside me to help with a bunch of others (autocross, harpoon, guided rocket launcher, etc).
    All FC3 weapons were kept and upscaled to 2048 for NG. There's about a dozen+ new ones.
    Also Toronto was in charge of Shangrila-unique weapons, such as the Shangrila bow, dagger, and some NPC weapons.

    For those interested in tech stuff, the overall gist is basically:

    Optimize more than what was already done on FC3. Since FC4 still ships 360PS3 versions, polycounts can't go above 15k, while LODs have a 75% reduction rate.
    Budget based on PS3 is 8MB (increase of 2MB over FC3 to compensate for always loaded new assets (grapple etc)) worth of weapons loaded at any given time (includes camos, repair tool, grapple, camera, mounted ground/vehicle, throwables, NPC gear and player gear.)
    As such, strict tech was in place to load LOD0 and MIP0 into memory only when the weapon is equipped.

    Some more here: http://www.artstation.com/artist/grassam

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  • KMiklas
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    KMiklas polycounter lvl 6
    Woah.

    Any chances for vehicles? ;)
  • Pedro Amorim
    Jesus man. Those weapons are so good! Best weapons I've seen in a long time!!
    Thanks so much for sharing!
  • Oniram
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    Oniram polycounter lvl 12
    love the weapons. cant wait to get my hands on this game!!!
  • warxsnake
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    warxsnake polycounter lvl 8
    KMiklas wrote: »
    Woah.

    Any chances for vehicles? ;)

    Yep, I'll ask the vehicle modelers to post here once they have their assets
  • CreativeHD
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    CreativeHD polycounter lvl 6
    Awesome stuff! Loving the game!
  • CandyStripes05
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    CandyStripes05 polycounter lvl 9
    beautiful weps and scenery
  • felipealves
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    felipealves polycounter lvl 6
    I just need to buy FC4 fast!

    Beautiful work guys.
  • Sir Apple
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    Sir Apple polycounter lvl 8
    Awesome work guys :) I'm having a great time in the game!
  • Envart
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    Envart polycounter lvl 6
    Stunning job, love those weapons especially!
  • Fridock
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    Fridock polycounter lvl 8
    Lovely guns, what Texture size do they use? 2K, 4K?
  • Brygelsmack
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    Brygelsmack polycounter lvl 8
    Lovely guns, what Texture size do they use? 2K, 4K?
    warxsnake wrote: »
    All FC3 weapons were kept and upscaled to 2048 for NG. There's about a dozen+ new ones.

    ___________

    Nice work guys! Will probably pick up the game at some point, it looks spectacular.
  • inflict3d
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    inflict3d polycounter lvl 4
    Waiting when character artists join this 'art-banquet'!

    Especially i would like to know who created Min's character.
  • KnechtRuprecht
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    KnechtRuprecht polycounter lvl 6
    Nice stuff guys, would love to see the vehicles, too!
  • NegevPro
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    NegevPro polycounter lvl 4
    I love the weapons, thanks for sharing!
  • JoshuaG
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    JoshuaG greentooth
    @warxsnake What's the tri count on your P416?
  • doomprodigy
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    doomprodigy polycounter lvl 5
    Real nice work guys, thoroughly enjoying the game :)
  • warxsnake
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    warxsnake polycounter lvl 8
    JoshuaG wrote: »
    @warxsnake What's the tri count on your P416?

    Around 10k if i remember correctly. (without the attachments)
  • Thierryart
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    Thierryart polycounter lvl 5
    I really like the weapon texture! What programe do you use at Ubisoft?
  • Millenia
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    Thierryart wrote: »
    I really like the weapon texture! What programe do you use at Ubisoft?

    I'm guessing legacy dDo and Photoshop, at least I could've sworn I spotted some dDo effects in there :V

    Looks amazing either way, definitely some of the best weapon work out there ;)
  • JamesMeader
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    JamesMeader polycounter lvl 7
    Just out of interest what are the polycounts generally for the weapons? Be cool to know. Thanks.

    *just saw the post above about 10ktri's, but would nice to get a bit more information*
  • nastobi123
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    nastobi123 polycounter lvl 5
    I would like to see wires for the weapons if that's cool. :) your stuff is so sick though.
  • warxsnake
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    Millenia wrote: »
    I'm guessing legacy dDo and Photoshop, at least I could've sworn I spotted some dDo effects in there :V

    Looks amazing either way, definitely some of the best weapon work out there ;)

    Yes dDo for some otherwise tedious edge work, with major mask editing with typical photoshop brush texturing. dDo mainly used as a layer and channel organizer, granting huge production speed; dDo alone won't get you something that looks beyond placeholder, classic dDo anyway. Based on the amount of weapons (new and old) needing texture work regardless, 60ish weapons all needing 2048s, I'd say dDo was indispensable and instrumental in helping with production time. dDo was first tested on FC3 Blood Dragon.
    Just out of interest what are the polycounts generally for the weapons? Be cool to know. Thanks.

    *just saw the post above about 10ktri's, but would nice to get a bit more information*

    Based on our budget, we can afford anywehre around 12k to 15k max for LOD0. LOD1 needs to be a 75% reduction, or ideally not more than 1500tri in any case.
    LOD0 and LOD1,2,3 are split in data. The entire set of attachments that can be loaded at any time = 1 weapon's worth of budget. LOD0 Attachments in first + anything on your back (1,2,3).
    Whether or not a pistol or an SMG had proportionally less tris than bigger weapons, sure, but it doesn't really matter. All that matters is having a max cost established for an LOD0 weapon and any other weapon costing equal or less.
  • grimsonfart
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    warxsnake wrote: »
    Yes dDo for some otherwise tedious edge work, with major mask editing with typical photoshop brush texturing. dDo mainly used as a layer and channel organizer, granting huge production speed; dDo alone won't get you something that looks beyond placeholder, classic dDo anyway. Based on the amount of weapons (new and old) needing texture work regardless, 60ish weapons all needing 2048s, I'd say dDo was indispensable and instrumental in helping with production time. dDo was first tested on FC3 Blood Dragon.



    Based on our budget, we can afford anywehre around 12k to 15k max for LOD0. LOD1 needs to be a 75% reduction, or ideally not more than 1500tri in any case.
    LOD0 and LOD1,2,3 are split in data. The entire set of attachments that can be loaded at any time = 1 weapon's worth of budget. LOD0 Attachments in first + anything on your back (1,2,3).
    Whether or not a pistol or an SMG had proportionally less tris than bigger weapons, sure, but it doesn't really matter. All that matters is having a max cost established for an LOD0 weapon and any other weapon costing equal or less.
    DDO is a fantastic piece of software for sure. Masking and not having to worry about layers upon layers in PS is probably the biggest reasons why i love it so much. Now that Megascans is right around the corner the possibilities will be endless. Maybe we will be able to create textures without having to search hours on the net or maybe even sculpt (at least for the most generic textures)...

    But i'm curious why you guys are still using legacy DDO? Don't you guys have 500 bucs at Ubisoft xD?
  • chiniara
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    chiniara polycounter lvl 8
    Im reaaaaaaaaally having fun with this game!
    The art is awesome and really inspiring!

    Can't wait to see some character art too :)
  • warxsnake
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    warxsnake polycounter lvl 8
    DDO is a fantastic piece of software for sure. Masking and not having to worry about layers upon layers in PS is probably the biggest reasons why i love it so much. Now that Megascans is right around the corner the possibilities will be endless. Maybe we will be able to create textures without having to search hours on the net or maybe even sculpt (at least for the most generic textures)...

    But i'm curious why you guys are still using legacy DDO? Don't you guys have 500 bucs at Ubisoft xD?

    There are long approval processes before using a particular software, and changing production tools mid-project is not.. advisable? Especially with software just coming out of beta.

    Personally I prefer the older dDo anyway.
  • Amsterdam Hilton Hotel
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    Awesome weapons work! :thumbup:

    Thanks for sharing so much info about specs and process, both on this and back when FC3 came out. Always interesting to read.


    And the environments are great too :)
  • sargentcrunch
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    sargentcrunch polycounter lvl 8
    I just recently beat the game, and the art is great, the guns, the environments, characters, etc. You said you used legacy DDO, is this game not using PBR? I thought it was, by how great it looks, but maybe this proves how much is still left in the 'old' way.
  • warxsnake
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    warxsnake polycounter lvl 8
    I just recently beat the game, and the art is great, the guns, the environments, characters, etc. You said you used legacy DDO, is this game not using PBR? I thought it was, by how great it looks, but maybe this proves how much is still left in the 'old' way.

    Thanks!
    The game and the textures are set up for PBR, yeah. You can create PBR pipelines with the old dDo. PBR is mostly just correct albedo values combined with a logical gloss/roughness. I forgot if dDo(old) exports a metalicity map, but you can just dedicate one of the channels of one of the map exports to metalicity.
    I didn't have metalicity maps available in the materials though, so in my case, whatever.
  • Matroskin
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    Here are also few more to add on my side :P
    Same thing - I did only Level Art pass, which included terraforming, vegetation placement, props and architecture layout, road layout and overall composition of several maps.
    Since FarCry was a huge collaborative effort of many people, the work was also shared in some areas with other artists, depending on the locations.

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  • PixelMasher
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    nice shots Vlad, your areas look great!
  • Zelfit
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    warxsnake What software do you use for texturing?
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  • Matroskin
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    Matroskin polycounter lvl 11
    Thanks Tim :) But I was actually jealous of Tamang and ShangriLa thematics lol. Always felt like Town was a bit less cool :P
    Great job everyone! I only now start to discover how often I might have been "heads down" concentrated on my own work, and therefore how much of the cool game content I have missed so far... Now I have the opportunity ;)
  • Evohc
    This is great and so is the game! On my second play through right now :D I'd really more then anything though like to know the overall polycount on the trees??

    Keep it up guys/gals!
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