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Decided to create a gun for my portfolio to show hard surface techniques, working from reference etc. I picked the FN SCAR-L as I like the design. Currently working on the high poly I've got it nearly completed, just wanted to post and get some critique on it before I go ahead and create my low poly.

I've searched the internet high and low for as good reference as I could get, just want some confirmation from you guys as to if I've missed anything or not.
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Rest of the normal map detail I'll create in PS, (Numbers etc)

C&C Please :)
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  • doomprodigy
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    Been finishing this up if anyone was interested. Currently working through texturing the lowpoly. Here's my current progress and a shot of my LP wireframe. Trying to get the material definition accurate between the alluminum and polymer.


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  • Drgreenethumb
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    Looks really great! would love to see a first person view of this. The only real question i have for this is why did not make the holes have geo on the front part of the hand guard. I think that could really add to this in the low poly.
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  • Kaine123
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    Are you using Toolbag 2 to preview this? I'd suggest adding a few scene lights to get more interesting lighting for your model, that way it may be easier to judge the material. Also I would turn the gloss up in both the metal and polymer up a fair bit. It might be a good idea to also try to give the wear and other material details a fair bit more contrast so it "pops" more. At the moment the rifle looks like it's a diffuse only material and it doesn't feel very "dynamic."
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  • Gazu
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    Looks cool but one suggestion:
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    I would make the chamfer bigger.
    Anway, looks great :)
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  • GrungyStudios
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    Good modeling and base texture here but i can barely tell if theres even a spec/gloss map on this, it appears to be flat. The muzzle is the only place where i see some spec. Although it could just be the lighting but Look at this picture
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    You can really see that some parts have a good amount of spec and gloss on them.
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  • doomprodigy
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    @GrungyStudios & @Kaine123
    Thanks for the feedback, I've adjusted my lighting, gloss and albedo hopefully the materials work better now. I'll add some wear in once I've got them nailed down :)
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    @Gazu
    Probably wont change the poly count on the stock end to make it less blocky due to it never being in view.

    @Drgreenethumb Here's a first person capture. I didn't model the holes on the lowpoly due to polycount and that I didn't think they affected the silhouette enough to require them
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    Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming :)
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  • doomprodigy
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    New update, still defining materials better. Started working on some wear. I think it's starting to come together finally :)

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  • Kaine123
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    Still too matte overall, but the grime/damage is definitely helping bring out the material.
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  • doomprodigy
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    Decided to go with a black version of it. I find it also helps with getting my values more accurate. What do you all think now?

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  • GrungyStudios
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    Major improvements here bud, honestly looks spectacular now. Your materials are reading excellent. I like the black as well! Don't have any crits for this anymore, nailed it. Nice work. I would like to see some angled renders of it :P
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  • Dave3d
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    looking really nice! love the gloss variation you have going on the stock.
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  • Shrike
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    GrungyStudios wrote: »
    Major improvements here bud, honestly looks spectacular now. Your materials are reading excellent. I like the black as well! Don't have any crits for this anymore, nailed it. Nice work. I would like to see some angled renders of it :P

    Im sorry but its a step back. The previous one had correctly reading materials across the board. The quality of the edge wear and general surface noise could be improved with more small scale variation (plus the render could be better and softer edges and more polys would have improved the weapon in general) but the new one is just a "Shiny = cool, right?" type of thing, and most mayor parts look incorrect and way too glossy. The Scar is a very matte gun, it was a little too matte before for the yellow plastic, but very close.

    It was good like it was before, the values were all pretty spot on. Just work on your edge definition and put more variation on the surfaces and add some rougher places and maybe more contrast in the gloss. Remember edge wear is on places that would see a lot of friction. The black spots on your reciever are often at places where it would never get worn off per example.
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  • doomprodigy
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    Shrike wrote: »
    Im sorry but its a step back. The previous one had correctly reading materials across the board. The quality of the edge wear and general surface noise could be improved with more small scale variation (plus the render could be better and softer edges and more polys would have improved the weapon in general) but the new one is just a "Shiny = cool, right?" type of thing, and most mayor parts look incorrect and way too glossy. The Scar is a very matte gun, it was a little too matte before for the yellow plastic, but very close.

    It was good like it was before, the values were all pretty spot on. Just work on your edge definition and put more variation on the surfaces and add some rougher places and maybe more contrast in the gloss. Remember edge wear is on places that would see a lot of friction. The black spots on your reciever are often at places where it would never get worn off per example.

    Taken what you said into consideration, guess I was going in a backwards direction a little. Here's what I've gone back to, still keeping the black though. Also started with a base layer of scratching on the magazine.

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    Thank's GrungyStudios and Dave3d for your comments, it's definitely starting to get there. Really want to get the gloss/spec maps sorted then Its really down to me painting on masks for my wear. Values are what's important for me.
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  • Pedro Amorim
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    Why did you decide to change colors on the weapon?
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  • AlexRodriguez
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    True I like the original color scheme as it iconic to the Scar-L and it shows off more of the modeling with the brighter colors (since the ScarL is one of the easier guns to make it would be great to make it iconic). Overall the black makes it look like a standard gun you see pop up all over the place with the black metal

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    ^^ That color scheme just makes it look badass
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  • Pedro Amorim
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    yeah, that color scheme with all the diferent color variations looks super cool
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  • doomprodigy
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    Thank you for your comments :)

    I'll do a test reverting it to the original colour scheme tonight. I originally went with black as I was hoping it would make it easier getting my spec and gloss maps more accurate to the materials which I think I have pretty close/accurate now. What do you all think on the spec/gloss as it is now?
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  • doomprodigy
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    Hey everyone whose been commenting. I haven't worked on the SCAR-L in awhile and it's reached the stage where I needed to call it finished and move onto whatever's next. Few mishaps I'd fix next time around with accuracy, where I've used polygons and my overall approach to hard surface modeling in general. Learned a bunch about PBR and look forward to tackling my next project. Thanks to everyone whose commented and critiqued love the help :)
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