Thompson smgs family

Odeca

Latest Update: NEED HELP!




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Hello! I've started working on the Thompson smgs, here are some early Wip Pics

M1928A1 Wartime production (Main differences are the fixed rear sight and smooth barrel)





Started working on the Lyman adjustable rear sight



Many things are missing

DWalker

The other major difference, of course, is that most of the gov't issued guns had a less complicated (i.e. cheaper & less prone to failure) straight magazine.

Odeca

Some more pics m1928A1 (wartime)

Odeca

L drum mag (50 round)

Amsterdam Hilton Hotel

lookin good!

CougarJo

Nice work mate

Odeca

Danke!

I think I've finished the HP now

EDIT: LOL I forgot to model the the bolt handle with the actuator.

M1928A1


M1928A1 Wartime production



M1928A1 Wartime production Variant



Buttstock



Close up Sight

CougarJo

Sweet high poly Nice details on the rear sight!

KnechtRuprecht

Indeed! Can't wait for the texture!

GrungyStudios

Dat detail :O

Odeca

Heya, thanks guys! I've finished the M1a1 HP also... I just have to add small details fix some size and I'm done.

skyline5gtr

model looks good but its pretty visually boring, hope to plan to add some better metal and wear

Odeca

skyline5gtr wrote: »

model looks good but its pretty visually boring, hope to plan to add some better metal and wear

Thanks bro but these are just a HP renders with some basic materials and no textures...
I still have to make the LP and Bake (It's gonna be a long day)

RyRyB

Hey Odeca,

This looks really strong!

Why the change of rear sights? Like CougarJo mentioned, the details on the original iteration would really stand out in ADS.

Looking forward to seeing this with textures; there's a lot of potential!

Odeca

Gonzo wrote: »

Hey Odeca,

This looks really strong!

Why the change of rear sights? Like CougarJo mentioned, the details on the original iteration would really stand out in ADS.

Looking forward to seeing this with textures; there's a lot of potential!

Thanks

Let me explain the change of rear sight :


These are the variants I'm gonna make, as you can see there are 3 different sights used on the thompson : The first one it's the Lyman adjustable sight (the one I rendered the closeup)

The others are just later cheaper/fixed variants

Gotta love these guns

Odeca

So I'm back on dis, updated first post with these screenies.

It's baaaaaaaaaaked, well, not all of it.

It's still missing

1) ringed barrel
2) sights
3) magazines
4) Fire selector switcher for m1928 (which will be shared with the m1)

Everything of these things is going to be trown in a third UV

Odeca

Allright, I'm back on this model but I'm having though times, I decided to adjust the UV and some parts of the model which were looking crappy, which you can now look there
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/thompson-m1a1-m1928-variants

So here it is my problem, I have 2 different types of barrel with 2 different muzzles which are welded togheter :

I would like to swap between them without much of a trouble and without unwarping all of the 4 variants, but just their single pieces, so let's say I want to use the type 4 muzzle with the type 2 barrel , here's what I come up with



Any Idea?

gametime

maybe this could work:

in photoshop: go to edit the blue level and set it to 128, essentially nullifying it.

Again, not sure if this works, but maybe.

aharmlesspie

What program are you using to bake your normal maps? What do your UVs look like?

Odeca

aharmlesspie wrote: »

What program are you using to bake your normal maps? What do your UVs look like?

Xnormal and the UVS are separated, just like if they are different pieces, with hard edge... I'm starting to wondering if that hard edge is the problem

aharmlesspie

Can you post a picture of the UVs? If you're planning on switching out barrels, then you have to have a hard edge because it's two separate objects. If you have the UVs of the gun barrel laid out horizontally, but the attachment UVs are vertical, that could be an issue(though it shouldn't be in a synced workflow...) If your high poly attachments are different from one another in terms of the actual barrel, then their normals won't match anyway. Lastly, you might consider hiding the hard edge somewhere where it makes sense, like in the pic above, the gun barrel could extend all the way out to the sight.

PyrZern

... Can't you move it a bit so the nuzzles or whatever they are cover the seams ?

Odeca

Allright so this is the UV



The way I thought to hide it it's by using this



However I'd still like to fix that issue

I cant really move anything since the barrel at the end are pretty different. I just don't understand for which reason the seam is so much visible. High polys are the same on that spot, both, rigged and flat barrels.