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  • juancaratino
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    ok,

    i don't understand the history of the Champions skins, in case of Nidalee (my character) she is a girl lonely in jungle , dead fathers, and she has , a hunter skin (ok jungle relation), a amazon skin (ok too), snow bunny skin(ok. i think) a faraon skin (mm?), , but then.......bewitching skin and french maid skin?????? what's the history on the skin? i am lose

    The time is running so i decide for this, i was thinking in TRON style, but ...no

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  • despondentPanda
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    Skins are just intended to be fun. They're not considered to be part of the canonical LoL lore, so you get a lot of stuff that doesn't necessarily fit in thematically but are still entertaining to see/play :)
  • juancaratino
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    Skins are just intended to be fun. They're not considered to be part of the canonical LoL lore, so you get a lot of stuff that doesn't necessarily fit in thematically but are still entertaining to see/play :)

    THANKs, and what is your opinion about my election? you like it?
  • erroldynamic
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    Roller derby Nidalee? I love it!
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  • RaFu
    Really interesting idea, can't wait to see more :)
  • juancaratino
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    some 3d sketch for proportions and colors, now do not recognize the face, but I'll put black hair and eyes with fringe as the original concept later



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  • DiegoTeran
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    i would tone down the boobs a bit juan. make it fit the LOL style a little better. i do like the idea tho
  • juancaratino
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    Turista wrote: »
    i would tone down the boobs a bit juan. make it fit the LOL style a little better. i do like the idea tho

    more Little breast you mean?, my english is so bad, ok ok less breast for next
  • juancaratino
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    a new update, i don't so sure about more booty and breast like the concept, or not

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  • slosh
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    I like the uniqueness of the idea but my main concern would be the recognition of the character. Can you tell its Nidalee? I would try and get more of her original personality into your version...just my 10 cents.
  • juancaratino
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    slosh wrote: »
    I like the uniqueness of the idea but my main concern would be the recognition of the character. Can you tell its Nidalee? I would try and get more of her original personality into your version...just my 10 cents.
    OMG
    you are
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    Satoshi Arakawa - holy ..!!!!!!!!

    just my 10 cents??? your 10 KILOS of GOLD...

    THANK YOU for taking the time
  • despondentPanda
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    Cool! If you have the time, I think it'd be awesome if you did a cat-form version too :D
  • mrnunez
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    I love the idea behind it, pretty awesome the ideas you have collect and nice start.

    Personally, looks she is pretty strong (calf, abdominals, bobbies)...maybe less strong and more feminine?
  • juancaratino
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    WOW thank you guys for the comment and your time, now trying to reshape the body to more cartoony style, for chubby legs, and less fitness, i dont know trying to find the way

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  • Rnz
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    Turista wrote: »
    i would tone down the boobs a bit juan. make it fit the LOL style a little better. i do like the idea tho

    Pretty much every female character besides Jinx has huge boobs. I agree with your proposal dude but just saying :D It is such a game clich
  • pixelghost
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  • erroldynamic
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    I think once you incorporate her hair, either dreads or her long flowing ponytail, it will go a long way into bringing out the recognition of her... maybe even double ponytail like in your ref board. Good job so far!
  • DiegoTeran
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    i say no helmet. takes away from who she is, as in we wont be able to tell dont hide her face
  • juancaratino
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    update of the face, don't know if we use visor or not

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  • juancaratino
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    another Update

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  • Kel-Shaded
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    Did you decide to drop the visor?
  • juancaratino
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    Kel-Shaded wrote: »
    Did you decide to drop the visor?

    dont know yet , maybe try a very transparent visor, not sure for now, what is your opinion?
  • Kel-Shaded
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    Her eye makeup looks intense (for shape, but subdued for colour), though it could be very mellow with a visor over.
    I think i like the pink visor with the white face paint, then you can really pop the eyes with a new darker colour maybe
  • Shanteez
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    You need a few more passes of detail.... But great base
  • juancaratino
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    Kel-Shaded wrote: »
    Her eye makeup looks intense (for shape, but subdued for colour), though it could be very mellow with a visor over.
    I think i like the pink visor with the white face paint, then you can really pop the eyes with a new darker colour maybe


    Graet idea, i forgot complety the withe face LOL, will try thah next, thank
    Shanteez wrote: »
    You need a few more passes of detail.... But great base

    yes i know, any any tips , links or tutorial you could give to help me will be appreciated

    Many many thanks guys for takinf the time to write here
  • Odow
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    It still doesn't read as nidalee in my eyes, if you show me that in another contest i would think it's a new champion concept not a skin. Maybe adding her a pony tail cool help. (or a cat form on roller blade XD)
  • juancaratino
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    OMG changed changed and ...wait ...CHANGED , every time :poly142:


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  • PhattyEwok
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    what is she going to change into? She has the ability to change into a tiger/lion as her ultimate move.
  • juancaratino
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    PhattyEwok wrote: »
    what is she going to change into? She has the ability to change into a tiger/lion as her ultimate move.

    well...first trying to finish she in low poly / hand paint , then will see...:poly122:
  • Odow
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    Oh yeah i like this one way more ! it read way more as nidalee ! :>
  • juancaratino
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    Thanks guys, and yes is very difficult make her similar to ...all the differents official skin concepts, so i try to show some point in common

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  • juancaratino
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    ok, here we go again

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  • Squals
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    I think a visor with some sort of Hud in it could be really cool. Just an idea haha But it might be too small.


    Oh wow I didn't see the 2nd page hahah way past the visor, well gj! looking good.
  • Odow
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    Why is her face white ? :< it doesn't read well imo.
  • slosh
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    I have to agree the white face is a tad strange. Have you considered just putting a hole in the helmet for the ponytail to come out of? That seems to be the one overwhelming standard for her...a high ponytail and bangs in the front. Just a thought! I like the changes you are implementing though.
  • juancaratino
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    thanks you guys, mi FIRST very BIG problem is she is not recognizable

    what she make recognizable, a cat beside her? i dont think can make it on time

    She has the mark on her face,
    in her legs,
    the diamon in her face,
    the pony tail,
    what more.?
    Squals wrote: »
    I think a visor with some sort of Hud in it could be really cool. Just an idea haha But it might be too small.

    Oh wow I didn't see the 2nd page hahah way past the visor, well gj! looking good.
    Thank you Squals, but. like you see, we have a problem , she is not recognizable, not here, not in Lunchcrunch, not in my house, crap :poly141:
    slosh wrote: »
    I have to agree the white face is a tad strange. Have you considered just putting a hole in the helmet for the ponytail to come out of? That seems to be the one overwhelming standard for her...a high ponytail and bangs in the front. Just a thought! I like the changes you are implementing though.

    A hole in Helmet, it no bad, don't know, i will try the change ok
    Odow wrote: »
    Why is her face white ? :< it doesn't read well imo.

    because the style o the Roller derby Babes badass :poly124:, but OK i will try the chage too


    Thank you all for taking the time and try to help me, REALLY THANKS
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  • juancaratino
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    exhausted, new body, new face, trying to find the way

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  • Kel-Shaded
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    I thought of it more like a street hockey stick
  • Odow
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    Hou I think i understand the major problem here. you said "adding a cat" but the thing is.

    Nidalee TRANSFORM into a panther, she doesn't like them, she's one herself. A cat on roller blade ? meh it's doable but strange.

    The major problem with people creating new skin for champion is that they don't analyze enough. In all the skins a champion have, they are some recurrent thing.

    For example nidalee always have naked thing and noticeable knees, she always have tibia high boots, they are never ever shown. She always have a mark on her forehead, not necessary a lozange, but something related to the skin, just like she have those marks on her skin (be carefull must of the old artwork aren't update and don't fit riot standard anymore, you need to look at the ingame model to see the real design. She almost always have some "loincloth" in the front. She always has armguard too but rarely glove. She never ever have such a cleavage, it's always a tubtop like in the 90'.

    I think your biggest problem is that, you don't know the game and you starting modeling too fast without taking the time to concept and think about it enough. It will be really really hard to make it her look like nidalee.
  • juancaratino
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    Odow wrote: »
    Hou I think i understand the major problem here. you said "adding a cat" but the thing is.

    Nidalee TRANSFORM into a panther, she doesn't like them, she's one herself. A cat on roller blade ? meh it's doable but strange.

    The major problem with people creating new skin for champion is that they don't analyze enough. In all the skins a champion have, they are some recurrent thing.

    For example nidalee always have naked thing and noticeable knees, she always have tibia high boots, they are never ever shown. She always have a mark on her forehead, not necessary a lozange, but something related to the skin, just like she have those marks on her skin (be carefull must of the old artwork aren't update and don't fit riot standard anymore bla bla.

    three words: Bewitching / Headhunter/ Pharaoh, nothing is consistent with what you say
    Good luck
  • slosh
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    Hey buddy, I think Odow does have a point. I think your version is salvageable though. I think the body markings will help for one. Try to look at her in game model and add a few more elements that are consistent throughout the outfits...don't think about the individual themes but more how they are implemented so that the skin still reads as Nidalee. Keep it up!
  • juancaratino
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    slosh wrote: »
    Hey buddy, I think Odow does have a point. I think your version is salvageable though. I think the body markings will help for one. Try to look at her in game model and add a few more elements that are consistent throughout the outfits...don't think about the individual themes but more how they are implemented so that the skin still reads as Nidalee. Keep it up!

    1) edit, maybe you right sometimes my ego blind me, apologies

    2) i will put their marks like cammy style of course, like i did in previous versions.

    3) "loincloth" that is OK for me

    and A cat on rollerblade?
    edit, maybe you right sometimes my ego blind me, apologies
  • juancaratino
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    Kel-Shaded wrote: »
    I thought of it more like a street hockey stick

    that is a good idea to, maybe i will try , thank you
  • Odow
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    Wow you're starting the be impolite with people trying to help you instead of just saying "DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NIDALEE LOL", This is the last time i'm spending time trying to help you. so let me point something for you. YOUR ROLLER BLADE, are the main goal of your skin, they are the essence, the base, no one get the skin without the roller blade. In all her skin the most important element is transfer to the cat. For exemple with bewitching, the cat has the witch hat. In your case the cat would need to be on roller blade, or have roller blade somewhere.
    three words: Bewitching / Headhunter/ Pharaoh, nothing is consistent with what you say
    Good luck
    Three Word: I Main Nidalee.

    Thos skin are all consistent with what i said, (Except headhunter cleavage and bewitching armguard, in resume they sometime don't put one of her design trademark with a skin) Here's the proof :>

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  • juancaratino
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    Odow wrote: »
    Wow you're starting the be impolite with people trying to help you instead of just saying "DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NIDALEE LOL", This is the last time i'm spending time trying to help you. so let me point something for you. YOUR ROLLER BLADE, are the .....>


    edit, maybe you right sometimes my ego blind me, apologies
  • Saindon
    Hey man if you don't want feedback why are you posting this here? She just wanted to help and you act like you're offended. The pointers she gave was on her own free time to HELP your design. Why don't you just take the tips and try to apply them? No one is your enemy here! We are all here to learn from one another.

    Anyway, I'm liking the direction of the new concept you just did. Just try to apply the critics the people gave you in the thread and you're on your way to a pretty awesome design!

    Keep it up!~~
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