Polycounts in next gen games thread!

JordanN

Since people are always asking "how many polygons are in next gen games?" and this is a website for making art related to video games, I want to set up a thread keeping count of it all!

I have seperated the thread into character polygons and environment polygons.


Characters:



Killzone Shadow Fall
Developer: Guerrilla Games
Platform: PS4
Release Date: November 15th, 2013
# of polygons:
40,000 (LOD1) 150 (LOD7)


Call of Duty: Ghosts
Developer: Infinity Ward/Neversoft/Raven Software
Platforms: PS3/360/Wii-U/PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: November 5th 2013 (PC), November 15th 2013 (PS4)
# of Polygons:
Riley the Dog: 23,020 Triangles (LOD0)


Ryse: Son of Rome
Developer: Crytek
Platform: XBO, PC
Release Date: November 22nd, 2013 (XBO), October 10th, 2014 (PC)
# of Polygons: 85,000* with no LODs and better shaders

*Previously 150,000 Polygons


Infamous Second Son
Developer: Sucker Punch
Platform: PS4
Release Date: March 21st, 2014
# of polygons: 120,000 per character


Trials Fusion
Developer: RedLynx & Ubisoft
Platforms: 360/XBO/PS4/PC
Release Date: April 14th, 2014
# of Polygons:
14,000 Triangles 


EA Sports UFC
Developer: Electronic Arts
Platform: PS4/XBO
Release Date: June 17th 2014
# of Polygons: 
Jon Jones wireframe
Benson Henderson wireframe


D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die
Developer: Access Games
Platforms: Xbox One/PC
Release Date: September 19th, 2014
# of polygons: Main Character 40,956


Dreamfall Chapters
Developer: Red Thread Games/Blink Studios
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: October 21st, 2014
# of Polygons: Zoe Castillo modeling
Zoe head topology 


Sunset Overdrive
Developer: Insomniac
Platform: XBO
Release Date: October 28th, 2014
# of polygons: 40,000 per character


Guilty Gear Xrd
Developer: Arc System Works
Platforms: Arcade/PS3/PS4/PC
Release Date: Febuary 20th, 2014 (Arcade), December 4th, 2014 (PS4)
# of Polygons
Character Modeling Process Part 1
Character Modeling Process Part 2
GDC Presentation of Guilty Gear Xrd's Pipeline



The Order 1886
Developer: Ready at Dawn
Platform: PS4
Release Date: Feburary 25th, 2015
# of polygons: 100,000 per character


Skullgirls: 2nd Encore
Developer: Lab Zero Games
Platforms: PS3/360/PC/PS4/XBO/Vita/Arcade/Mobile/Switch
Release Date: April 10th, 2012 (PS3), July 5th, 2015 (PS4)
# of Polygons:
4 Triangles Per Character 


Smite
Developer: Hi-Rez Studios
Platforms: PC/XBO/PS4
Release Date: March 25th, 2014 (PC), August 19th, 2015 (XBO)
# of Polygons:
Wireframe of Gods available in Model Viewer


Just Cause 3
Developer: Avalanche Studios
Platform: PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: December 1st, 2015
# of Polygons:
All character wireframes


Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
Developer: Ubisoft Montreal
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: December 1st, 2015
# of Polygons:
40,000 Triangles + 3 2048 x 2048 Texture Maps (see comment section)


Rides With Strangers
Developer: Reflect Studios
Platform: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: January 14th, 2016 (Demo)
# of polygons:
19,212 ~ 22,956 Polygons


Street Fighter 5
Developer: Capcom & Dimps
Platforms: PS4/PC/Arcade
Release Date: February 16th, 2016
# of Polygons:
"the number of polygons used for Ryu's head at Street Fighter V is greater than the number of polygons used for Ryu's whole body at Street Fighter IV. "
80,000 Polygons per Character @ 60fps 


Tom Clancy's The Division
Developer: Ubisoft Sweden
Platforms: PC/XBO/PS4
Release Date: March 8th, 2016
# of Polygons:
Civilian wireframe


EA Sports UFC 2
Developer: Electronic Arts
Platform: PS4/XBO
Release Date: March 15, 2016
# of polygons:
Mike Tyson modeling and wireframe.


Total War Battles: Kingdom
Developer: Creative Assembly
Platform: PC/Mobile
Release Date: March 26th, 2016
# of Polygons:
1,000 ~ 1,500 Triangles Per Character


Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Developer: Naughty Dog
Platform: PS4
Release Date: May 10th, 2016
# of polygons: 
"Drake’s Uncharted 4 model is over double the polygons of Joel from The Last of Us PS3."
Uncharted 4 vs Uncharted 3 Head Topology


Paragon
Developer: Epic Games
Platform: PC/PS4
Release Date: June 7th, 2016
# of Polygons:
Hair modeling driven by 3D splines and Hair Cards


Paladins: Champions of the Realm
Developer: Hi-Rez Studios
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO/Switch
Release Date: September 16th, 2016 (Beta)
# of Polygons
25,000 Triangles + 2048 x 2048 Diffuse/Normal/Roughness/Metal/Spec/AO Maps


Seraph
Developer: Dreadbit
Platforms: PC/PS4
Release Date: September 20th, 2016
# of Polygons
15,000 Triangles


Civilization VI
Developer: Fireaxis Games
Platform: PC
Release Date: October 21st, 2016
# of Polygons:
Leaders ~  60k triangles, two sets of 2k textures.


Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
Developer: Raven Software
Platforms: XBO/PS4/PC
Release Date: November 4th, 2016
# of polygons
25,000 Triangles (see comments)


Dishonored 2
Developer: Arkane Studios
Platforms: XBO/PS4/PC
Release Date: November 11th, 2016
# of Polygons:
All character wireframes in model viewer


Final Fantasy 15
Developer: Square Enix
Platform: PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: November 29th, 2016 (PS4/XBO), March 6th, 2018 (PC)
# of polygons: 100,000 per character (max). Hair = 20,000 polygons


Shantae: Half-Genie Hero
Developer: Wayforward Technologies
Platforms: PS4/Vita/XBO/Wii-U/PC/Switch
Release Date: December 20th, 2016
# of Polygons
Giga-Mermaid Wireframe
TinkerBrain 3D Model


Nier: Automata 
Developer: PlatinumGames
Platform: PS4/PS4 Pro/PC/XBO/XBO-X
Release Date: February 23rd, 2017
# of polygons: "The polygon count for the PS2 was a few thousand and only one to two types of images were necessary. However, the polygon count for the PS4 is approximately 100,000 and it needs about eight types of images. You’ll also need more than that if you want something more detailed…"

2B: 72,000 Polygons


Horizon : Zero Dawn
Developer: Guerrilla Games
Platform: PS4/PS4 Pro
Release Date: February 28th, 2017
# of polygons:
Thunderjaw: 550,000 Polygons
Aloy's hair: "100k triangles in-game hair for Aloy to be fully dynamic, driven by 50 splines at 3-5 ms whilst maintaining a stable 30fps on a PS4 system."


Immortal Redneck
Developer: Crema
Platform: PC
Release Date: April 25th, 2017
# of polygons:
Temsep (Boss Character) ~ 5700 Polygons
Maaty (Boss Character)~ 4800 Polygons
Weryt (Boss Character) ~ 8500 Polygons


Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Developer: Vicarious Visions
Platforms: PS4/PS4 Pro/XBO/PC/Switch
Release Date: June 30th, 2017
# of Polygons:
Wireframe of all the characters and critters available in Model Viewer
Papu Papu: 35,892 Triangles
Komodo Bros: 69,724 Triangles 
N.Tropy: 53,928 Triangles
Critters: 17,264 ~ 24,678 Triangles


Fortnite
Developer: Epic Games / People Can Fly
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO/Mobile/Switch
Release Date: July 27th, 2017
# of Polygons:
LOD 0: 23,041 Triangles 

JordanN

Environment Polycounts:


World of Warplanes
Developer: Wargaming
Platform: PC
Release Date: November 12th, 2013
# of polygons:
Grumman F2F: 15,000 Polygons
Me-262: 15,000 Polygons
Various Aircraft Wireframes


Thief
Developer: Eidos Montreal
Platforms: PS3/360/PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: Febuarary 25th, 2014
# of Polygons:
"each wall module had around 3 tillable materials and approx. 850 Tris." (see comments)


Infamous Second Son
Developer: Sucker Punch
Platform: PS4
Release Date: March 21st, 2014
# of polygons: "The engine regularly draws over 11 million polygons for the whole scene.
There are many instances per block, with over three million instance vertices per block."

Seattle Collison Models


MLB 14 The Show
Developer: SCE San Diego Studio
Platforms: PS3, PS4, PS Vita
Release Date: April 1st 2014 (PS3), May 6th, 2014(PS4)
# of polygons:
PS3: 150,000
PS4: 1 million


DRIVECLUB
Developer: Evolution Studios
Platform: PS4
Release Date: October 7th, 2014
# of polygons: 250,000 per car


Alien: Isolation
Developer: Creative Assembly
Platform: PS3/360/PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: October 7th, 2014
# of polygons:
Various Environment & Prop Wireframes


Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
Developer: Sledgehammer Games
Platform: PS3/PS4/360/XBO/PC
Release Date: November 4th, 2014
# of Polygons:
Album containing various weapon prop examples showing wireframes


Assassin's Creed Unity
Developer: Ubisoft
Platform: PS4, XBO, PC
Release Date: November 11th, 2014
# of polygons: The gallery contains in-game wireframe shots of various environments and buildings


Grand Theft Auto 5
Developer: Rockstar North
Platforms: PS3/360/PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: September 13th, 2013 (360), November 18th, 2014 (PS4), April 15th, 2015 (PC)
# of Polygons:
Vinewood Hills Draw Call = 2,500 Triangles (Read the complete article for a better understanding) 


The Crew
Developer: Ivory Tower & Ubisoft Reflections
Platforms: 360/XBO/PS4/PC
Release Date: December 2nd, 2014
# of polygons: 
Car Engine: 200,000 Triangles (see comments)


Guilty Gear Xrd
Developer: Arc System Works
Platforms: Arcade/PS3/PS4/PC
Release Date: Febuary 20th, 2014 (Arcade), December 4th, 2014 (PS4)
# of Polygons
Complete making of Guilty Gear Xrd's Environments
Background Stage Wireframe


The Order 1886
Developer: Ready at Dawn
Platform: PS4
Release Date: Feburary 25th, 2015
# of polygons: 
Westminster Bridge Wireframe
Black Wall Yards Wireframe


Project CARS
Developer: Slightly Mad Studios
Platforms: PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: May 6th, 2015
# of Polygons:
Radical RXC Turbo: 158,000 Triangles
Mitsubishi EVO VI TME: 88,000 Triangles 
2016 Cadillac ATS-V.R GT3: 62,000 Triangles
1965 Lotus 38: 95,000 Triangles
1965 Lotus 40: 70,000 Triangles


Skullgirls: 2nd Encore
Developer: Lab Zero Games
Platforms: PS3/360/PC/PS4/XBO/Vita/Arcade/Mobile/Switch
Release Date: April 10th, 2012 (PS3), July 5th, 2015 (PS4)
# of Polygons:
Night Stage Wireframe
Eliza's Stage Creation


World of Tanks
Developer: Wargaming
Platforms: PC/360/XBO/PS4
Release Date: August 12th, 2010 (PC), July 28th 2015 (XBO)
# of Polygons:
Valentine Tank: 50,000 Triangles + 4096 x 4096 PBR Textures
Flak Cannon Wireframe

Factory Environment Wireframe


World of Warships
Developer: Wargaming
Platform: PC
Release Date: September 17th, 2015
# of Polygons:
Osa I Missile Boat: 32,100 Triangles
Osa II Missile Boat: 33,900 Triangles


Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
Developer: Treyarch
Platforms: PS3/360/PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: November 6th, 2015
# of Polygons:
Siege Mechas: 94,830 ~ 188,775 Triangles
VTOL Aircraft: 67,764 Triangles
Futuristic Car: 29,150 Triangles
Spider Mech: 34,668 Triangles


Rise of the Tomb Raider
Developer: Crystal Dynamics
Platforms: 360/XBO/PC/PS4
Release Date: November 10th, 2015
# of Polygons:
Ballista: 30,000 Triangles


Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
Developer: Ubisoft Montreal
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: December 1st, 2015
# of Polygons:
HK 417: 15,000 Triangles with no LODS
Magazine: 1,000 Triangles with no LODs


Rides With Strangers
Developer: Reflect Studios
Platform: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: January 14th, 2016 (Demo)
# of polygons:
Cars: 53,000 ~ 63,000 Triangles with no baking. Smoothing handled by the low poly.


Street Fighter 5
Developer: Capcom & Dimps
Platforms: PS4/PC/Arcade
Release Date: February 16th, 2016
# of Polygons:
Background Stages: 400,000 ~ 500,000 Polygons @ 60fps
Total Scene: 700,000 ~ 900,000 Polygons @ 60fps
Complete Stage Wireframe


Tom Clancy's The Division
Developer: Ubisoft Sweden
Platforms: PC/XBO/PS4
Release Date: March 8th, 2016
# of Polygons:
5 ~ 6 Million Triangles @ 60fps (see comment section)
FN FNX45: 15,000 Triangles (see comment section)


Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Developer: Naughty Dog
Platform: PS4
Release Date: May 10th, 2016
# of polygons:
Madagascar level breakdown
Treasury Level Breakdown
Train Wreck Level Breakdown


Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Developer: Eidos Montreal
Platforms: PC/XBO/PS4
Release Date: August 23rd, 2016
# of Polygons:
One Modular Texture (read complete breakdown to understand)


Earthlock: Festival Of Magic
Developer: Snowcastle Games
Platforms: XBO/PS4/PC/Wii-U/Switch
Release Date: September 1st, 2016
# of polygons:
Desert Environment ~ 25,000 Triangles + 6,200 Triangles Oasis Reflection
Apartment Interior ~ 41,000 Triangles + 2048 x 2048 Albedo Textures
Potion Room ~ 42,000 Triangles  + 2048 x 2048 Albedo Textures
Magic Shop ~ 43,900 Triangles + 2048 x 2048 Textures
Train Station ~ 80,000 Triangles
Airship ~ 83,000 Triangles + 4096 x 4096 Albedo Texture


Paladins: Champions of the Realm
Developer: Hi-Rez Studios
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO/Switch
Release Date: September 16th, 2016 (Beta)
# of Polygons
Stone Keep Statues Wireframe
Island Props Wireframe
Brightmarsh Props Wireframe


Forza Horizon 3
Developer: Playground Games
Platforms: XBO,PC
Release Date: September 27th, 2016
# of polygons:
2017 Acura NSX: 217,000 Triangles


Fractured Space
Developer: Edge Case Games
Platform: PC
Release Date: September 22nd, 2016
# of Polygons:
Spaceships: 40,000  ~ 280,000 Triangles


Mafia III
Developer: Hangar 13
Platforms: PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: October 7th, 2016
# of polygons:
Unique Architecture Wireframes
Sports Car:  26,006 Triangles
Environment Props: 1,404 ~ 41,766 Triangles + 512 x 1024 & 2048 x 4096 Textures
Buildings: 37,718 Triangles + 1024 x 4096 & 512 x 512 Textures


Farming Simulator 17
Developer: Giants Software
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: October 26th, 2016
# of Polygons:
DualAxle Truck Wireframe
Bredal K165 Wireframe
Khun FPB 3135 Wireframe


Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
Developer: Infinity Ward
Platforms: PS4/XBO/PC
Release Date: November 4th, 2016
# of Polygons:
SDF Drone Wireframes
Prisoner Vehicle Wireframes
Civilian Car Wireframes


Final Fantasy 15
Developer: Square Enix
Platform: PS4/XBO
Release Date: November 29th, 2016
# of polygons: 5 million


Star Citizen
Developer:Cloud Imperium Games
Platform: PC
Release Date: ????
# of Polygons: 30 million

Fallen Spirit RPG
Developer: Shadow Kind Games
Platform: PC
Release Date: ????
# of Polygons: 11.2 million


Nier: Automata 
Developer: PlatinumGames
Platform: PS4/PS4 Pro/PC/XBO/XBO-X
Release Date: February 23rd, 2017
# of polygons:
2 Million Polygons
500 Draw Calls


Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands
Developer: Ubisoft Paris
Platforms: PC/XBO/PS4
Release Date: March 7th, 2017
# of Polygons:
QBB-95 LMG: 13,421 Triangles  (see comments)


Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash
Developer: Tamsoft
Platform: PS4
Release Date: March 16th, 2017
# of Polygons: 400,000 per stage


Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Developer: Vicarious Visions
Platforms: PS4/PS4 Pro/XBO/PC/Switch
Release Date: June 30th, 2017
# of Polygons:
Wireframe of various props available in Model Viewer
Spaceship: 80,750 Triangles
Motorcycle: 59,483 Triangles*
Bi-Plane: 45,684 Triangles*
Blimp: 214,304 Triangles

*Includes Crash Bandicoot's Character Model


Fortnite
Developer: Epic Games / People Can Fly
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO/Mobile/Switch
Release Date: July 27th, 2017
# of Polygons:
Stylizied Mailbox Weapon: 7,404 Triangles (see model viewer)
World Wireframe


Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
Developer: Naughty Dog
Platform: PS4/PS4 Pro
Release Date: August 22nd, 2017
# of Polygons:
Combat Shrine Level Breakdown


Assassin's Creed Origins
Developer: Ubisoft Montreal
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: October 27th, 2017
# of Polygons:
"usually a single module with dimensions 6x6 meters made from separate stone blocks and small debris between some bigger gaps is around 4 K tris" (see comments)


Star Wars Battlefront II
Developer: EA Dice
Platforms: PS4/PS4 Pro/XBO/XBO-X/PC
Release Date: November 17th, 2017
# of polygons:
AAT "somewhere around 30k"(In comments)


Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Developer: Warhorse Studios
Platforms: PC/PS4/XBO
Release Date: February 18th, 2018
# of Polygons:
Kuba Holic Wireframe


PC Building Simulator
Developer: The Irregular Corporation
Platform: PC
Release Date: March 27th, 2018
# of Polygons:
Album contains wireframes of select PC components


Vampyr
Developer: Dontnod Entertainment
Platform: PC, PS4, XBO
Release Date: June 5th, 2018
# of Polygons:
Ambulance: 27,424 Triangles
Wheel barrow: 3,140 Triangles
Grand Piano: 23,449 Triangles
Cash Till: 12,316 Triangles
Bookcase: 6,531 Triangles
Bed: 11,218 Triangles


Hell Let Loose
Developer: Black Matter 
Platform: PC
Release Date: 2018 
# of polygons:
Willys Jeep:  60,000 ~ 110,000 Polygons + 8192 x 8192 PBR Texture Map
GMC CCKW 353:  40,000 Polygons + 4096 x 4096 PBR Textures 
Howitzer: 20,957 ~ 37,400 Polygons
Combat Knife: 3,000 Polygons 
Panzer: 93,000 Polygons + 8192 x 8192 & 4096 x 4096 PBR Maps
Rocket Launcher: 13,668 ~ 24,262 Polygons
Land Mines: 3560 ~ 5486 Polygons


Indivisible
Developer: Lab Zero Games
Platforms: PS4/XBO/Switch/PC
Release Date: 2019
# of Polygons
Pre-Production Art Wireframe 
Pre-Production Art Wireframe 2 
Sidescrolling Level: 175,732 Triangles @ 60fps

ericktjoe

Thanks a lot jordanN. This is valuable. I'll reply too if I saw other games polygon count.

Mask_Salesman

*coughTrianglescough*

Quack!

*coughVerticescough*


Nice list Jordan, keep it up, this could be a great resource!

ZacD

I hate the word polygons, is that one or two tris? It can easily mean both.

rube

In relation to games I just always assume poly counts are talking about triangles. Sure it won't always be the case but's the safer assumption. Also polygon could mean 6000 triangles, it could mean anything.

Wells

I've never had an instance professionally when polygon meant anything other than triangle, in reference to limits.

Snefer

Always assume its triangles. Triangles are always whats rendered. Also I would take environment polycounts with a giant truck of salt. It depends on how you count them. If its just the raw number the engine spits out, it could mean anything, a few million tris sounds like a ton, but how much of it is for shadows, different renderpasses, etc. Usually doesnt mean how many unique triangles on your env assets that are rendered : )

ZacD

Also for environments, Is that the average polycount seen by the player, or for the whole environment? How does terrain tessellation or tessellation in general fit into that number? What about particles, billboards, and LODs?

Snefer

Exactly

ericktjoe

When I work for games, I assume polygons are tris, in vfx or arcviz they're quads.

weee

interesting, reminding me of old arcade days of polygon counting, how much polygons a SEGA Model 2 can handle? 300,000 raw, how much for Model 3, 1 mil, wow Virtua Fight 3 looks mind blowing

Autocon

Never in my professional career has anyone talked about tri counts. Its always vert count and even then its normally UV's as they are a better assessment due to the verts being doubled at UV seams and such.

digitalcybercherries

Very nice list!

lildragn

Thanks for keeping this up to date. Thunderjaw in Horizon is just nutty! Wow

skankerzero

the title should probably read, 'Polycounts in Current Gen games'.

Blond

Now I'm all mixed up:

Are polygon quads, tris or vertices counts?

+ If we have access to render all of those polys now, woudn't it be better to use that power to render real time reflections with models from the last generation poly count?

I really don't think more polys per character are really necessary at this point, even last generation, they were enough

ZacD

Polygon counts should mean quads, but that's not always true, and can sometimes mean tris. Reflections and tris have difference performance limitations and bottlenecks. Polygons are basically free, reflections are really expensive. I do kinda agree 40k tris at 1080p is reaching a point of diminishing returns, but more tris for everything else is a great thing. But I always like more geo, we still texture a lot of things that ideally would be geometry, and a lot of those tricks like normal maps don't hold up well in VR.

Neox

Blond wrote: »

Now I'm all mixed up:

Are polygon quads, tris or vertices counts?

+ If we have access to render all of those polys now, woudn't it be better to use that power to render real time reflections with models from the last generation poly count?

I really don't think more polys per character are really necessary at this point, even last generation, they were enough

depends on the character design, really. just look at horizon, we're not talking about a mostly nude bald fighter from some boxing game. layers of cloth, jewelry, hair, fur. all that adds up. In the end it comes down to the design of a character and how close you will get. Last gen a lot of things needed to be baked on and be rigid, now we have a little more freedom. But it's time to switch to subd/displace workflows to maintain more detail. At one point it will be just super inefficient to have all those polygons in one model and someone needs to rig the stuff.

marks

tbh the "number of polygons" a game "can handle" is like ... a ludicrous simplification of game performance. You can slow pretty much any engine to a crawl using about 20 polys if you do it intentionally. And if you want to draw completely flatshaded tris with zero realtime shading or lighting, you can probably render millions upon millions concurrently at a reasonable framerate with modern consoles.

kanga

Really useful thread thanks!!!

littleclaude

Cool thread, this is like Gold Dust to me. Do you mind if we add cars?



Project CARS
Project CARS
Developer: Slightly Mad Studios - Home
Platform: Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Wii U, Windows, Steam OS
Release Date: TBC
# of polygons: PC 300K Console 60K


Runs at 60fps on PS4, But Not on Xbox One
Each Car in Console Versions Has 60,000 Polygons
PlayStation 4 Handles Project CARS at 60fps, But Xbox One Currently Doesn’t –

Would love to know about

Forza Horizon 2
F1 2014
Wreckfest
Crew, The
Driveclub
GRID Autosport

acealmighty13

Holy crap!  And I thought my new personal project was over the poly count and I'm sitting at 3,000 polygons, 8,000+ tris at the moment.  Good to know.  Ha ha!

Injall

Well, keep in mind the polycount is not the only thing that count. You still have to think about the shader complexity and how many drawcalls is needed.
If you build a 20k mesh that need 20 materials, it will probably cost more than a 100k mesh with a single material using atlases.

vickgaza

Also keep in mind LODs, you can have a super heavy LOD between 0 and 1 meters from camera, then cuts by half straight after that. 90% of gameplay will use second lod , first probably reserved for conversations/cinematics/etc  

Apocrs1980

Nice thread, I was worried my pine tree modle would eclipse 30k tris. But as you say it's more about draw calls and occlusion optimization.

CharlestonN

Don't forget to also take the engine you're running on into consideration - All of the games listed above use different engines with different proficiencies - Some will be better at pushing large poly counts while others will be better at pushing high instruction set shaders, high res textures and/or post processing to compensate for not being able to push massive poly counts.

Also - The games listed that are console only are running on engines that are extremely optimized specifically for the console they are developed for so they may be able to push higher poly counts than an engine that is multi-platform.

KonginChains

rube said:

In relation to games I just always assume poly counts are talking about triangles. Sure it won't always be the case but's the safer assumption. Also polygon could mean 6000 triangles, it could mean anything.

In relation to games I just always assume poly counts are talking about triangles. Sure it won't always be the case but's the safer assumption. Also polygon could mean 6000 triangles, it could mean anything.
Just for clarification, a character from final fantasy listed is 100,000 polygons, which means 200k triangles right? Sorry for the question, it just seems there might be some confusion whether the stats meant tris or polys, remember one poly is made up of 2 tris. 

JordanN

KonginChains said:

Just for clarification, a character from final fantasy listed is 100,000 polygons, which means 200k triangles right? Sorry for the question, it just seems there might be some confusion whether the stats meant tris or polys, remember one poly is made up of 2 tris. 

A polygon is any closed shape. 
Triangles = 3 sides. Quadrilateral = 4 sides. N-Gon = Infinite sides.
Because game engines almost always use triangles, assume that number is constant.

KonginChains

Sorry I'm still not quite clear about it. If the polylimit says 100,000 polys for a character in FF15, this reads to me as 200,000 tris, supposing that those polygons are completely quadrilateral. Correct?

JordanN

KonginChains said:

Sorry I'm still not quite clear about it. If the polylimit says 100,000 polys for a character in FF15, this reads to me as 200,000 tris, supposing that those polygons are completely quadrilateral. Correct?

Yes, but as I mentioned, game engines convert everything into triangles, not quads. 
So 100,000 polygons are assumed to be 100,000 Triangles you see in a game.

katana

Does anyone happen to know the average tris count on the characters in For Honor?

ManiH

Really interested to see the increased polygon budget in the Last of Us II. Neil definitely mentioned Ellie being the highest poly character among, atleast Sony studios.

elitemaster

can some one tell the polycount / tris of the characters used in Final Fantasy XIV : Realm reborn by Square Enix.

please it would be great help

goekbenjamin

I hope it is okay if I extend the thread a little?

Resident Evil 2 Remake
Developer: Capcom
Platform: PS4/PS4 Pro/PC/XBO ONE
Release Date: January 25th, 2019 
# of polygons:
~ 137,000 tris (all):

~ 18,000 tris (pants, [are those controlled zremeshed?]):

~3,100 tris (shoes):

~ 8,100 tris (hands):

~ 43.000 tris (Jacket):

~ 7,300 tris (shirt):

~ 18,000 tris (head):

~ 30,600 (hair):

~ 5,300 tris (brows, eyelashes):

PolyHertz

Why is this thread all of a sudden making the front page when the last post was nearly 3 years ago?

kanga

Looking at the first post withe all the titles it was like looking at the xbox store last night. Not much has changed.