[Chivalry] – Mason Knight – Dark Ornate Set

Scoot_da_Poot

Hi there,
I. LOVE. CHIVALRY... so I'm pretty damn excited for this contest. I almost always play as the Mason Knight with a Messer and Morning Star or Kite Shield so that is the set I want to focus on. I may also do a Bearded Axe.
I really like dark armor because it feels like Mason and adding ornate details would not only help to strike fear into the hearts of Agathians on the field, but also make it fit to be worn by Malric himself.

I'm still working on the concept but here is my Ref sheets so far:










FOR THE ORDER!

Scoot_da_Poot

Here is the start to my concept. I'm still messing with the overall shape and may add more to the side of the helm but for now, this is the direction I want to go in. I'm gonna be concepting the Messer soon too. All crits welcome!

Nolt

Nice start! I really like the direction you're going. I think I might readdress the face plate. I think the length might be a bit too much as it might stab the chest a bit.

nyloc

Im really digging the shapes you have going on, great start

Scoot_da_Poot

Thanks guys! I brought the point up a little on the face plate so hopefully there wont be an issue with clipping.
I'm still deciding on elements as I go which unfortunately means I'm moving slower than I'd like. Most of the details will be small embossed or etched trim. On the back, however, I want to do a pictorial scene of the eagle tearing a lions head off the body with knights to either side kneeing. Sort of like the Greek helmets but with 1500's style imagery.
Anyway, here is my WIP. Crits welcome!

Sophax

Realy dig the cool helmet. I would rather see you do a messer instead of a bearded axe though.

Nolt

I like the fists that you have on the sides

LuCh!

nice work mixing in the heraldry

Loren Broach

Say! This looks really nice! Looks tough.

Minor critique though, the fist looks a bit like a babies fist. Which for me is sort of killing the tough factor. Could be personal taste though.

Keep it up!

Scoot_da_Poot

Thanks for the feedback all!
I agree about the baby fists lol. I tried to toughen them up a little but I don't want to go too far from the mason fist look. I'm still working on the back and top so hopefully the fists wont feel out of place once the other bigger details go on.... man, I need to get moving on this...

alexd

simply great !

Scoot_da_Poot

Thanks alexd!
Here is where I'm leaving the high while I work on the low poly. I'll come back to add scratches after I figure out the UV layout.





And here is a real quick idea I'm thinking about for the messer. I don't want to go too far from the original shape. Just pretty it up a bit.

alexd

I personally really was WoW-ed with this emblem of the eagle tearing the agatha lion haha .

Very creative

Nolt

Just noticed that emblem on the back. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice

Sophax

The helmet looks great but not a fan of the handle, grip and pommel part. Looks too fancy imo

Noth

anything pointy pointing towards your hand on the handle is no good.

Scoot_da_Poot

Thanks for the feedback all, I appreciate it and agree!

Here is an update with a simpler shape. Changing the pommel to an eagle claw instead. I still wanna try to have the grip be a wrapped white thread like in the ref collage. But it may change once I'm modeling.

Scoot_da_Poot

WIP- got my bakes and started texturing. It's sitting at 1196 tris right now.

Noth

Damn that's ornate, you don't have any space left over! Gj on getting both emblems in, looking forward to seeing all tweaked in engine.

pior

Very well done !!

Shiv

That looks really cool!
Doesn't scream in your face, really nice stuff.

soulstice

that looks great scoot, love the ornate indeed.

Nolt

Man, I really like that eagle on that back. It just looks BA

Scoot_da_Poot

Thanks for all the kind words!
So here is my all'antica style helm textured and ready for battle. All crits are welcome. I'll probably come back to tweak the textures once the messer is done (the one used for these shots are not mine). On to the Sword!

Loren Broach

hoo, this looks superb, great job! The eagle on the back is so good!

N4meless

Nice detail !!!

Nolt

And in engine! Great job. Looking good:)

Konras

Superb! Details on sculpt thrown me out from my chair. Helmet looks beautiful in game as well!

pior

That is beautifully made ! Congratulations on a job well done

soulstice

As many others have mentioned, I love the eagle on the back. Where's the weapon to go with this? :P Look forward to seeing the set.

Scoot_da_Poot

You guys are awesome thank you!
Here is the start to the messer. Still got a bit to do on it.

THIRD_D4Y

This is definitely one of my favorite threads on here

Scoot_da_Poot

@THIRD_D4Y- daww thanks!

WIP- Here is the High poly and the bakes. Started adding color but I have quite a lot of texturing to do.

Chris Bruin

If the messer is a two handed weapon, I would consider extending that handle further, right now he is grabbing just the pommel of the weapon, which looks funny. Other than that, it's great work so far!

jackalope

Awesome!
I might be wrong but it looks like the sword needs to be rotated 180° In his hands.

Magicspook

ParadoxTLH wrote: »

I would consider extending that handle further, right now he is grabbing just the pommel of the weapon, which looks funny.

ah, ahum, that was actually how they used hand and a half swords.

Scoot_da_Poot

@ParadoxTLH- Yeah I thought so too but the regular messer doesn't even touch his hand . I do in fact have mine a bit longer than theirs.

@Jackalope- Their messer is the same direction:

Maybe I'm just using the wrong anim set? 3p_longsword [125]. Or it's supposed to be that way... Any thoughts?

jackalope

Maybe that's the right way then, I'm not sure.
I know this page talks about rotating the weapon.

https://tornbannerjira.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/servlet/mobile#content/view/30606317

Chris Bruin

I think you may be using the wrong animation set. Take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXHnXn6o67U

The knights hands are right beside each other (hence why I mentioned it looked funny/wrong). Try flipping through all of the animsets until you find one that is similar to the video.

Scoot_da_Poot

@Jackalope- that's not what was wrong, I had put it in the wrong socket .

@ParadoxTLH- As it turns out, there are 1st person and 3rd person animations. that vid shows the 1st person view which does have the hands together. But in most of the 3rd person animations, they are wider apart. see below.

SO I think I have the majority of the weapon textures done. Now I need a Blood mask and to go back to the helm and match the gold and black metals.

Sophax

Looks good but not a fan of the bright red. It stands out too much considering both teams will use this weapons. A more neutral/shady or less bright colour would fit more.

jackalope

Very very cool.
Glad you figured out the animations.
Maybe consider brightening up the gold on the blade. Right now it's getting lost a bit.

Scoot_da_Poot

@Sophax- I may be reading this wrong, but I think it means it's ok to be team specific with a helm/weapon set> "The weapons can be team agnostic, but if you are submitting a weapon bundled with a helmet, it should match the style of the team the helmet is for."
Either way, i agree about how bright it was. Toned it down a bit. Thanks!

Alright, I tweaked the textures some more and added a blood mask! I think I'm getting close to calling it done. Any last thoughts?

uk_resistant

Looks great,not sure if it has been mentioned but i would punch up the contrast of the handle padding as the fine detail gets lost a bit.

jackalope

Fantastic, well done. I'm sure you will place, if not win outright.

Magicspook

uk_resistant wrote: »

Looks great,not sure if it has been mentioned but i would punch up the contrast of the handle padding as the fine detail gets lost a bit.

lawl he literally reduced the contrast on the last update so the sword wouldnt stand out as being so mason-y

Scoot_da_Poot

Well, I'm still awaiting Tax Verification Info but I have submitted!
Thanks for all the feedback and good luck. Lots of great entries!

Workshop Link- http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=323019623













Thanks again!

jackalope

Fantastic. I'm sure the tax thing is just a matter of time. Hopes that get's sorted out soon so you can be rolling in the bank notes

Loren Broach

This was beautifully executed (pun!) Great job!!

pior

Beautiful work, such a fantastic entry !!

Nolt

Great job with that and getting it submitted