Rigging issue (Character controls). Need some help!

TheIceHeLater

Hi everyone! I'm having some problems with my rig.

When I rotate the spines controller the arms controllers are not aligning properly to the joints.
EDIT: The controls also stretch out and the problem only happens when I rotate in the Y-axis.
Here are some screenshots:





Been trying to fix the problem for a while now so I'm pretty desperate. If anyone could help I'd be very greatful!

jfeez

First check your pivots are correctly aligned, this could cause offset, then if you have constraints on the joints check their weighting. Its likely to be one of these things.

Also a little bit of advice

Arrange you groups like this. The offset group holds the transform information for the pivot the controller is aligned to, the node group lets you have clean transforms for node rigging(or driven keys) and the controller obviously, is the controller. Its clean and organised and you will avoid having to have keyed values on a controller, which animators hate.

TheIceHeLater

Thank you for the answer! That's some good advice. Greatful for that

Although noone of the above fixed the issue. The pivots are aligned perfectly and the weighting is 1. Any other suggestions?

I discoverd now that the controllers even stretch a bit and the offset only happens when I rotate in the Y-axis.

JohnnyRaptor

Where is the constraint on the misbehaving controllers from? Whats the parent so to say.

TheIceHeLater

JohnnyRaptor: I use orient constrain with maintain offset on the controllers to the joints. Don't know if that's what you meant.

JohnnyRaptor

Yeah thats right. thought you might have put a constraint on the controllers, thus getting offset rotation.

TheIceHeLater

Ok, thanks for trying to help It's really annoying not being able to figure stuff like this out you know

Redsett

Hard to say without looking at the scene. I recommend breaking it down to each control to see where it starts and go from there.

TheIceHeLater

I've tried that too. the rotation errors start att the clavicles. I think there might be something wrong with the transformation data somewhere.
If anyone wan't to take a look at the scene I'd be glad (greatful) to send it!

TheIceHeLater

Remade the controls and still the same issue. I am totally out of ideas and on a deadline. In desperate need of help ^^

JohnnyRaptor

If you can share your rig I can have a look at it during my lunchbreak today.

TheIceHeLater

That would be awesome! I sent the rig in PM.

JohnnyRaptor

Alright dude, to fix the problem with the joints not following properly,

use a parent constrain instead of an orient constrain.

for the controllers deforming when you rotate, you need to freeze the scale on all the parent groups. and i mean all of them. doing this on just the hip solves the problem, but its a good habit to keep everything frozen and clean so i would recommend you doing that and then re-add the constrains to your skeleton.

TheIceHeLater

Oh man I'm so thankful for the help! This made my day Thanks alot!
It seems to work properly now!