PBR Dagger

stevston89

UPDATE:

So I decided to release this for learning purposes. Seems some people have trouble understanding PBR so I hope this will help out a bit.

It includes the the mesh, textures, and marmoset files.

I will place the download link below. Let me know if there are any issues.

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Hey guys!

I had been wanting to try out stylzied sculpting with realistic texturing in PBR. So here is something I have been working on for a few weeks off and on. Feel free to crit, but I don't know if I will make any changes. I am pretty burnt out on the piece . The concept is by Konstantin Vavilov.

EDIT: Forgot to mention it was rendered in Marmoset 2.0!

stevston89

Oh the maps go as follows:

Albedo = Top Left

Spec = Top Right

Normals = Bottom Left

Roughness/Gloss = Bottom Right

marcobar

This looks great! The stylized realism is a great combination with the PBR. Thanks for sharing the maps - very helpful, too. Is this rendered out in Marmoset?

stevston89

@ marcobar - Yes it is forgot to mention that.

RogelioD

Well, it's official. Stylized PBR looks amazing =P

Spoon

Loving the style, Stevston!

narticus

Really like the style. The sculpt looks great as well. Which packages did you use for modeling/texturing?

locater16

This physically based stylized stuff is wild, good job!

Trevor

That looks amazing!! Really like how you made the stylized assets and PBR work together. You have done a great job with them.
Oh and by the way my initial reaction when I saw the dagger was "fuck me running, that looks badass!"

Fwap

Holy shit, thats pretty dope.

slosh

I like the material reads but I'm not crazy about the slash marks. They look very deliberate and unnatural. It would help if they weren't so straight and had some fall off. Still great job!

CougarJo

Very nice! Thanks for the map!

Gazu

Cool Dagger!

stevston89

Thanks for the kind words guys.

@ narticus - I used 3dmax and zbrush.

@ Trevor - LOL thanks!

@ slosh - Yeah. The more I textured it the less I liked how I handled the cut into the blade. I was to lazy to go back and resculpt . Keeping it in mind for next time.

narticus

Cool, but what about texturing? Where dDo or substance painter involved?

Also, I think the cuts look fine for a stylized prop. Stylized damage shouldn't be too realistic anyway, right?

almighty_gir

i... i love this...

stevston89

@ narticus - I did try out DdO, but didn't get the results I wanted. All of this was done in photoshop. No help from programs except for a bit of NdO to help the normals.

@ gir - Thanks!

SaboR1996

Now i'm wondering what this would look like if you swapped the spec with a metal map.

stevston89

@ Sabor1996 - First it's not a swap. Metalness is just a mask. I would have to go in and transfer all of the spec for the metal into the diffuse/albedo. Second it would look largely the same, but I would have to fight some technical issues transitioning from the metals to the dirts and oxidation.

Tobbo

This looks really cool! Excellent example of how awesome stylized art can still be used following PBR principles.

Alphavader

love this - just a small asset but so good results and so enjoyable to look at.
I should try this too

stevston89

@ Tobbo - Thanks!

@ Alphavader - Yes you should. Everyone should it's a great way to hammer down the PBR principles.

Side note if people are interested I can release the marmoset files and textures so you can get a closer look.

peanut™

I can't wrap my head into understanding what PBR is. Can it be cured ?

stevston89

peanut™ wrote: »

I can't wrap my head into understanding what PBR is. Can it be cured ?

Yes! Here are some great tutorials/ articles on it:

http://www.marmoset.co/toolbag/learn/pbr-theory

http://www.marmoset.co/toolbag/learn/pbr-practice

NegevPro

Looks great, very nicely done!

peanut™

stevston89 wrote: »

Yes! Here are some great tutorials/ articles on it:

http://www.marmoset.co/toolbag/learn/pbr-theory

http://www.marmoset.co/toolbag/learn/pbr-practice

Thanks will take time and read ... nice

narticus

stevston89 wrote: »

@ Tobbo - Thanks!

@ Alphavader - Yes you should. Everyone should it's a great way to hammer down the PBR principles.

Side note if people are interested I can release the marmoset files and textures so you can get a closer look.

Sure, I'd love to see the marmoset file.

Ubuska

Just wow. It turns out that PBR is looking great with stylized look. Great job there!

3djester

Wow, I really like it... Looks great!

siraniks

wow thats great and something new ...

stevston89

So I decided to release this for learning purposes. Seems some people have trouble understanding PBR so I hope this will help out a bit.
Just one thing to note the gloss, AO, and cavity are all in one texture. Here is a breakdown of the channels:

Gloss = Red channel
AO = Green channel
Cavity = Blue channel

It includes the the mesh, textures, and marmoset files.

Here is a link to the download. Let me know if there are any issues.

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narticus

How do you assign those different channels in Marmoset? Or say, UE4?

stevston89

In marmoset next to the map options there is a channel drop down. I don't know specifically how to do it in UE4, but this model wouldn't work in UE4 as it doesn't use the metalness workflow. I am sure if you ask around the technical talk someone can tell you how to use separate channels in UE4.

narticus

Cool, thanks man

mjeruzal

Nicely done. Goes to my fap folder.

Rlloret

Very cool man!

Isaiah Sherman

I would like to see a wave of games going with a stylized PBR approach, like this.

My only one, weird nit-picky thing is I think the circle shapes on the blade make it look a bit like swiss cheese or something. Perhaps scale the circles down / reduce their normal map intensity?

Cool dagger!

AbKI

This is really cool! Thanks for posting the maps too, they're really helpful.

Rofnald

Where dDo or substance painter involved?

stevston89

Thanks guys!

@ AbKl - if you have Marmoset 2 you can download all of the files for the dagger here.

@ Rofnald- Sorry just saw this. Nope. All of it was done by hand in photoshop.

irds

A lot of inspiration for me, thank you for all files!

AbKI

Just wanted to say thanks for the Marmoset files, they're great and have really helped me understand PBR a bit more.

JasonHeckmen

Thanks for the files. I'm learning a lot!

Bedrock

Hope you don't mind bumping with a question.. If you were to use this asset in U4, what exactly would you need to do texture wise?

I haven't used PBR extensively yet, but I'm guessing that you would need to overlay the spec over the albedo and use that as a diffuse? Spec information is taken from the diffuse for metal surfaces so I think that would work.

Then you would make the metalness map, but would that include the dirt and grime as well? I always struggled with this, given how you don't want to use greys in your metalness. For the gloss I imagine that goes into roughness (inverted).

stevston89

So basically to convert this to metalness you would first paint your metalness mask (masking only the metal parts and putting the dirt layers in there as well to blend). Some grey values are ok fro transitioning especially fro dirt layers. After that you would put the spec into the albedo for the masked metal areas. Last yes you would need to invert the gloss.

riceart

great work, thanks for this

JustinTheEnd

stevston89 wrote: »

Thanks for the kind words guys.

@ narticus - I used 3dmax and zbrush.

@ Trevor - LOL thanks!

@ slosh - Yeah. The more I textured it the less I liked how I handled the cut into the blade. I was to lazy to go back and resculpt . Keeping it in mind for next time.

Hey I hate to be a bother but I see you mentioned that you used photoshop for texturing, I was just wondering how did you manage to accomplish the gloss map in photoshop? Did you actually paint the gloss map by hand or did you use another map to help?

By the way I literally have a word document open with information I've found through looking at your marmoset file, so a big thank you.

stevston89

JustinTheEnd wrote: »

Hey I hate to be a bother but I see you mentioned that you used photoshop for texturing, I was just wondering how did you manage to accomplish the gloss map in photoshop? Did you actually paint the gloss map by hand or did you use another map to help?

By the way I literally have a word document open with information I've found through looking at your marmoset file, so a big thank you.

I painted it by hand. Though recently I have been trying to keep everything in masks as much as possible. That way it's easy to transfer details to different maps. Basically what I am doing now is putting the values I want for each material on a layer and masking it. Then I will go in and add details and imperfections.

ChrisFagan

This is awesome and thanks so much for the files, it's really useful!

NoRank

Well, as far as I know, you can use specular maps in unreal lol. Btw, really amazing job. Such a nice style, gotta try it out sometime.

And oh, I took a look on your marmoset scene dude, really amazing. If I can suggest you, try to use the microfiber option on the diffusion and use some fuzz (it gives some cool highlights to the model). And the Anisotropic on the reflections made some cool effect aswell (and secondary reflection too).