Damn man you really captured the feeling of this place, and you have a really fine attention to detail. If you wanted to make it feel even lonelier you could make the road stop at the cabin :poly121:
wow, you NAILED that snow material and scene composure. I wasn't sure if the first outdoor pics were shots from real-life or your work at first. The interiors are great, but you can still tell they are virtual. The outdoors just Blew. My. Mind.
Looks amazing! The only thing that is slightly jarring is the disconnect between your godrays and the spotlight on the floor in the first pic. They feel a bit separated and the light a bit harsh for how dispersed the light should be with the cloudy weather outside. Otherwise, it looks incredible. Really good job!
PS: can you show how you did your godrays? I'm having difficulties myself with them.
Wow thanks guys! I'm cooking up a quick fly through for CGStudentAwards as apparently tomorrow is the last day for entries, so I'll post it up on here as well once it's done
PS: can you show how you did your godrays? I'm having difficulties myself with them.
I actually did it using the old UE3 technique, so it's just a cone mesh and a simple panning material that fades in and out based on your distance. I think the example projects available on the ue4 marketplace have much nicer godrays. I'm still using an older version of UE4 so I haven't tried them, but you should check them out
to me, the indoor shots... they look and feel weird. just some objects stand out, like the barrel's material, and it feels extremely clean, like theres no dust or anything. But those outdoor shots, holy crap do those look amazing. I'd maybe add some animal tracks outside, but I don't know if they'd be very noticeable.
You've captured the lighting and atmosphere perfectly and the assets are great.
My only crit would be that the silhouette of the hut is very linear and CG. It may be worth breaking those lines or making them a little irregular at least?
The snow shader is actually nothing fancy at all at the moment I used the fuzzy shading node to add a bit of fuzziness, the sparkling effect that I found in the UE3 docs and the material changes tiling based on its distance from the camera, and that's pretty much it haha.
I basically have 3 snow material functions (only 1 would have probably worked too with input nodes), 1 for thin snow that's been stepped on etc, 1 for deep smooth snow and 1 for snow dunes. Each one has a tileable normal and ao map that I baked from high polys that were created by projecting a World Machine generated height map onto a plane in Zbrush and then inflating/tweaking it a bit. And I just use those mat functions everywhere, like in my landscape material and any assets that have snow on them e.g. the log pile.
Here's one of the functions:
Here are some unlit/flat lighting and detail lighting screens too if anyone wants to see them
I really like your scene. Especially the outside.
Would you be willing to share a cooked/build version of your scene, so we can have a closer look ? I would love that.
Just a small thing, I would have made the snow particle les.. Constant.. More delay between the spawn waves, so they are not all constantly blowing. To have a more random/chaotic feel to them.
Would you be willing to share a cooked/build version of your scene, so we can have a closer look ?
Possibly, I'll have a look If not, if all goes well the environment might be available on UE4 marketplace once it's finished.
Not much progress over the weekend, but here's what I got:
Heisenbag (puns :poly124:), some material tweaks, also tried playing around with some spiderweb placeholders and more dust to try and make the interior feel a little more abandoned. Need to finish off the rest of the interior props next
Here are some new screenshots, mostly did a lot of invisible work like tidying up the materials and the whole project, but also added some new stuff, tweaked some old stuff . Also started using Skylight and been fiddling with Post Process, not sure if I made it look better or worse haha.
Wrapped the project up now, but will be coming back to it in the future to polish it some more for portfolio, so any feedback is still welcome!
Ahh yeah you're right, I see it! I think I may have changed something with the DOF settings, and the addition of Skylight made everything look a little different too, I'll see if I can match it better to how it looked in that older screenshot
You might try increasing the ambient and reducing the direct light a bit to match the overcast winter lighting. Adding a little blue to the distant mountain would help indicate its distance.
You might try increasing the ambient and reducing the direct light a bit to match the overcast winter lighting. Adding a little blue to the distant mountain would help indicate its distance.
Thanks! I tried it and I think it looks better
Quick update:
Gave the distant mountains some more love
Also tried to hack some snow build-up around and on the top of the cabin wood base
Wasn't sure exactly how to do the one around the cabin without it looking ugly, but in the end I ended up modelling a curved plane all the way around, which uses an alpha to mask out top and the bottom, and I plugged the mask through DitherTemporalAA function to make the seam a little less apparent. If anyone knows a better way to achieve this, please let me know
There's no geometry decal in UE4? That's how would have done it in CE3.. The alpha parts would be turned in to decal objects and project over your curved plane and terrain.
There is not nearly enough maple syrup in that cabin for it to be from New Hampshire.
On a more serious note, your mountain in the background is out of place, unless that cabin is right near Mt. Washington, you likely wouldn't find those sharp jutting peaks anywhere else in New Hampshire. The mountains throughout New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine are very old compared to the relatively new Rockies etc. They are significantly more round with less protruding rock faces and cliff faces than what you've got showing off in the background. It's just a little nitpick, and honestly only one people from the area would pick up on.
The only other nitpick I have is that would be a very illogical place to build a cabin. Homes and cabins in scenic areas such as mountains or lakes are built in a way to take advantage of the view. That cabin would likely have the porch facing the view of those mountains in the background. In addition, I would find it hard to believe someone would build that close to exposed rock and not have the cabin/house sit on the higher elevation. Again, this is nitpicking and not something that really has to change, but from a building perspective that is not the most ideal place on a lot to build.
Other than that, you've done a fantastic job with the trees, textures, and other aspects. If you choose to continue, I can totally see a 1985-88 Ford F-150 parked nearby, a chopping block or log splitter for the firewood, and some exterior furniture on the front porch. A folded or half/blown off tarp might be a good addition for covering the firewood as well. All in all fantastic work.
Thanks guys! I took a little break so I didn't work on this much, I did make some changes that tristianCarter suggested though, so I'll post some updated screenshots later
There's no geometry decal in UE4? That's how would have done it in CE3.. The alpha parts would be turned in to decal objects and project over your curved plane and terrain.
I'm not sure... are geometry decals different from the regular ones that get projected onto a surface that you drag them on? I tried using ue4's decals, but they're either a bit broken or I'm not using them right (probably the latter ) because they always look odd
Nice to see that the awesome depth got back! Good job!
Geometry decals are made in maya/max. You can think of it as placing a alphad texture on a plane slightly offsetted from what ever you want a decal on. Then that plane will be projected to your first geometry..
I tried to find the CE3 wiki entry about it but didn't find it. I made a tutorial two yrs ago that explains it pretty well. I need stop refearing to it soon:poly122: take a look at the one minute mark.. It's two separate meshes put the edge one is projected on to the underlaying one. https://vimeo.com/44294957
Hey guys! Finally wrapped up the scene, thank you all for the feedback and for kind words ^^ Can't wait to start something new and use what I've learned from this.
Nice to see that the awesome depth got back! Good job!
Geometry decals are made in maya/max. You can think of it as placing a alphad texture on a plane slightly offsetted from what ever you want a decal on. Then that plane will be projected to your first geometry..
I tried to find the CE3 wiki entry about it but didn't find it. I made a tutorial two yrs ago that explains it pretty well. I need stop refearing to it soon:poly122: take a look at the one minute mark.. It's two separate meshes put the edge one is projected on to the underlaying one. https://vimeo.com/44294957
Thanks man! Ohh yeah that makes sense, I watched the videos and it seems like an awesome technique I need to try it out some time, maybe the next project
I so love it , especially the trees , is it some basic material or did you put some love into the leaves material , could i see it ?
Thanks! It's nothing special really, I just had an albedo, spec, roughness and normal map for the branch, and then I blended a layer of snow on top using the WorldAlignedBlend multiplied by a tiling cloudy/noisy mask
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PS: can you show how you did your godrays? I'm having difficulties myself with them.
The curtains above the sink feel too insubstantial, more like plastic shower curtains than something you'd find in a kitchen.
The seams between the wall planks look rather wide; do you have a reference photo?
The cast iron items - both the stove and the pans - are much lighter than is common.
I actually did it using the old UE3 technique, so it's just a cone mesh and a simple panning material that fades in and out based on your distance. I think the example projects available on the ue4 marketplace have much nicer godrays. I'm still using an older version of UE4 so I haven't tried them, but you should check them out
Thanks! I'll look into these
I guess I have to pick up the U4 too.
You've captured the lighting and atmosphere perfectly and the assets are great.
My only crit would be that the silhouette of the hut is very linear and CG. It may be worth breaking those lines or making them a little irregular at least?
Anyway cool work
Here's a quick fly through I did for the CGStudentAwards contest:
http://www.cgstudentawards.com/entries/edvinas-petrauskas
A bit disappointed that I didn't get to fully finish the environment before the deadline, but oh well there's always next year :icon15:
Edit: It would be great to see some flats of the cabin.
I basically have 3 snow material functions (only 1 would have probably worked too with input nodes), 1 for thin snow that's been stepped on etc, 1 for deep smooth snow and 1 for snow dunes. Each one has a tileable normal and ao map that I baked from high polys that were created by projecting a World Machine generated height map onto a plane in Zbrush and then inflating/tweaking it a bit. And I just use those mat functions everywhere, like in my landscape material and any assets that have snow on them e.g. the log pile.
Here's one of the functions:
Here are some unlit/flat lighting and detail lighting screens too if anyone wants to see them
I'll try to post some breakdowns at some point
Beautiful stuff, I love it!
Would you be willing to share a cooked/build version of your scene, so we can have a closer look ? I would love that.
Just a small thing, I would have made the snow particle les.. Constant.. More delay between the spawn waves, so they are not all constantly blowing. To have a more random/chaotic feel to them.
Not much progress over the weekend, but here's what I got:
Heisenbag (puns :poly124:), some material tweaks, also tried playing around with some spiderweb placeholders and more dust to try and make the interior feel a little more abandoned. Need to finish off the rest of the interior props next
Here are some new screenshots, mostly did a lot of invisible work like tidying up the materials and the whole project, but also added some new stuff, tweaked some old stuff . Also started using Skylight and been fiddling with Post Process, not sure if I made it look better or worse haha.
Wrapped the project up now, but will be coming back to it in the future to polish it some more for portfolio, so any feedback is still welcome!
Something has happened to the trees also?
Quick update:
Gave the distant mountains some more love
Also tried to hack some snow build-up around and on the top of the cabin wood base
Wasn't sure exactly how to do the one around the cabin without it looking ugly, but in the end I ended up modelling a curved plane all the way around, which uses an alpha to mask out top and the bottom, and I plugged the mask through DitherTemporalAA function to make the seam a little less apparent. If anyone knows a better way to achieve this, please let me know
On a more serious note, your mountain in the background is out of place, unless that cabin is right near Mt. Washington, you likely wouldn't find those sharp jutting peaks anywhere else in New Hampshire. The mountains throughout New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine are very old compared to the relatively new Rockies etc. They are significantly more round with less protruding rock faces and cliff faces than what you've got showing off in the background. It's just a little nitpick, and honestly only one people from the area would pick up on.
The only other nitpick I have is that would be a very illogical place to build a cabin. Homes and cabins in scenic areas such as mountains or lakes are built in a way to take advantage of the view. That cabin would likely have the porch facing the view of those mountains in the background. In addition, I would find it hard to believe someone would build that close to exposed rock and not have the cabin/house sit on the higher elevation. Again, this is nitpicking and not something that really has to change, but from a building perspective that is not the most ideal place on a lot to build.
Other than that, you've done a fantastic job with the trees, textures, and other aspects. If you choose to continue, I can totally see a 1985-88 Ford F-150 parked nearby, a chopping block or log splitter for the firewood, and some exterior furniture on the front porch. A folded or half/blown off tarp might be a good addition for covering the firewood as well. All in all fantastic work.
Amazing work and on a side note you may be able to use splines for the areas of snow intersecting the cabin but it looks fine as is.
Thanks! And not a problem at all, I'm glad you like it I'm not sure... are geometry decals different from the regular ones that get projected onto a surface that you drag them on? I tried using ue4's decals, but they're either a bit broken or I'm not using them right (probably the latter ) because they always look odd
Thanks!
Geometry decals are made in maya/max. You can think of it as placing a alphad texture on a plane slightly offsetted from what ever you want a decal on. Then that plane will be projected to your first geometry..
I tried to find the CE3 wiki entry about it but didn't find it. I made a tutorial two yrs ago that explains it pretty well. I need stop refearing to it soon:poly122: take a look at the one minute mark.. It's two separate meshes put the edge one is projected on to the underlaying one. https://vimeo.com/44294957
Here's the fly-through video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhSiMnKm7E4&hd=1
And the screenshots:
Thanks man! Ohh yeah that makes sense, I watched the videos and it seems like an awesome technique I need to try it out some time, maybe the next project Thanks! It's nothing special really, I just had an albedo, spec, roughness and normal map for the branch, and then I blended a layer of snow on top using the WorldAlignedBlend multiplied by a tiling cloudy/noisy mask It's not going to be released on the ue4 marketplace after all, but I might look into zipping and uploading the project somewhere if you guys want it
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Thanks man, you can upload by dropbox or another sharefile system, dont use mega cause it has bugs.
Hope to see your work soon, i will PM you later on for something that you may be interested.
Yeah alot of people are interested in this.
Your snow looks nice. I can't wait to see the intricate of it all.