Agent Coulson - Likeness Sketch

ZamM90

Hey guys workign on my first likeness sketch, any crit and new set of eyes is welcome

Its agent coulson from SHIELD and marvel films in general

ZamM90

Quick update

ZamM90

A quick update, i hated the last render so i've been resulpting and tweaking in Marmoset. Still a logn way off but here where im @:

ZamM90

Quick weekend update:

Croftyness

Is there a normal map on that suit?

ZamM90

There is a generic fold normal map and a tiled detail normal map on the Jacket and shirt and tie (different textures)

DWalker

The material feels very coarse, overall; it might look better if you reduced the intensity of the detail normal map.

There's a strange zig-zag shadow on the left side of the shirt, midway between the collar and the tie.

ZamM90

Thanks, yeha i saw the zig zaggy thing i just hadn't got round to fizing it its done now. i dopped the spec and normals on the jacket sand shirt. I had a AO issue so ive gone old school and dropped the AO onto the Albedo for now. Has the jacket gone to far the other way in terms of not seeing the material details?

slosh

I can sort of see the likeness but it needs work. If he wasn't wearing a suit, i would not know it is Coulson. You may want to get these up against image planes and really check the positions of the major facial features. Suit looks good btw!

ZamM90

hey guys thanks for the deeback
So since the likeness was lacking a fair bit ive been playing aroudn with the sculpt, still struggling though, any tips for getting a likeness? Ive setup image planes in zbrush using the image plane plugin adn have matched most landmarks up, but it doesn't seem to have that likeness alot of people manage to get.

Joao Sapiro

his face looks really muddy as in you modeled from your head instead of closely following the refs.

heres some refs for you to study :

butt_sahib

Yeah you cant really tell its him. flipping between the references posted and your current model i can see afew areas where you could make some changes.

Good luck man

ZamM90

Hey guys thanks for the input, i had but your right lots of places, and im sure there are more so if you spot some glaring problems or even tiny ones let me know appreciate the feedback! I think this is a step in the right direction at least.

slosh

Looks like ur getting close! Keep nitpicking. That's what it comes down to.

butt_sahib

Hey man

You got it! It looks so much better! Can definitely see him now. Good job!

I would add more mass to the fatpad he has just above the angles of his lips, generally more mass to the nasolabial and jaw folds. I would sharpen the lower ends of the nostrils more, add more curvature to the ear as it seems abit flat right now

ZamM90

QUick update now. Might tak eanother break and look as it with fresh eyes a little later.