Pimp my Portfolio: Scar-H

Greenmutze

Hey Polycounters,

I want to pimp Portfolio with some new pieces. So i started wit a Scar-H. I think its a good rifle to gain some experiences in Submodelling and Texturing. But before i will start with detailing and adding stuff like Scope, Laser etc. i want to get some feedback.
So here is the Highpoly, i hope you like it so far

sargentcrunch

n/a

Joltya

It would help if we saw some reference.

DWalker

I believe he's going for something like this:

Although the short barrel version is only available in the Barbie-gun caliber light variant:



This pistol grip is rather blocky, and it appears too wide.

Greenmutze

Thx DWalker for the pics, i will post some references today wich is used. But i think i mixed some different Scar calibers

Oh and know i see that my magazine is to small ^^

commador

Greenmutze wrote: »

Thx DWalker for the pics, i will post some references today wich is used. But i think i mixed some different Scar calibers

Oh and know i see that my magazine is to small ^^

I was going to point out that it looks like you are using the 5.56 L variant for the lower vs the 7.62 H. Otherwise, looks like a really good start. The gas block and the sights look juicy.

Greenmutze

ok very useful to know. I thought FN Scar and Scar-H are the same, now i know FN is a genus an there are existing a FN-H and a FN-L. Im not a weapon expert, but i hope its not a too huge mistake. For my next Rifle i will do a better research. thx commador

commador

Greenmutze wrote: »

ok very useful to know. I thought FN Scar and Scar-H are the same, now i know FN is a genus an there are existing a FN-H and a FN-L. Im not a weapon expert, but i hope its not a too huge mistake. For my next Rifle i will do a better research. thx commador

No problem! And from the outside, the only real visual difference is the length of the mag. The H is longer and a bit wider, as is the magwell to accommodate it. Otherwise the rest of the rifle looks exactly the same.

Here is a top down image of a 7.62 H magazine (top) vs a 5.56 L magazine (bottom) with a 7x42 in both. (7x42 is not a round the SCAR fires, but this is the best image I could find to compare the difference in size)

Greenmutze

Ok here are the references i used. I also could need some advices for planing the low poly. Im not sure if i should model these parts or just bake them.

luge

what I would suggest is, for the holes going in, since they are not very deep, use a normal map, but for the pieces coming off, obviously model those lol.

Greenmutze

haha...sure i mean the holes ^^

commador

Funny, only one image on your ref sheet is a H.

I say model it. It shouldn't add too much to the polycount if you are aiming for current specs.

Laughing_Bun

For where technology is now, you should definitely just model it.

Shrike

you really need to recheck your proportions. your mag ends about half the grip while the reference mag is longer per example. Also the front part looks a little blobby

Greenmutze

commador wrote: »

Funny, only one image on your ref sheet is a H.

I say model it. It shouldn't add too much to the polycount if you are aiming for current specs.

haha...don't trust google xD

Greenmutze

Hey guys

I have a update for you. I added dome details and blocked out the holographic sight, but i'm not sure if its the right one for a Scar. What is your opinion?

Greenmutze

i think i have found a nice site http://www.gggaz.com/scar-rifle-accesories.html

juniez

for the holographic sight being the "right" one - you can put any kind of accessory that's compatible with picatinny rails

Greenmutze

Ahoy!

Last weekend i added a grip and modeled a new and not finished scope for my Scar. Hope you like it

commador

Looking pretty good dude. But, still not an H.

Greenmutze

Haha....i will change the name of the thread to FN Scar ^^

I also have a small update for you. The finished highpoly of the Scope. If i have enogh time i will begin with the Low Poly this weekend.

woot

youve done a pretty good job so far, but i feel like it might need some more detail that could be baked into normal maps.
look at this side reference, compare it to your side views of the model:



you can see it has a lot more detail, especially on the upper reciever. there are a lot of bolts and rivets and things that could be implemented fairly easily in floating geo then baked into your low poly. i recently did a scar h and it baked out nicely for me with the floating geometry.
you can also see your stock is lacking some certain features. ive highlighted stuff that may or may not need changing depending on preferences.



for a scar L, the shape of the magazine is not the conventional one used in almost all the references i checked. it has more of a curvature on it. the one you have currently modeled is the one used in a SCAR H usually, i'm not sure if they are interchangeable though.
the stock needs a hole through the top, as well as the upper part of the bit it collapses into needs a modification to it. at the moment it looks as if it is sat straight on top, whereas they overlap. also, the buttstock has slight ridges to it, as a portfolio piece you might want to cover all details, even if they arent visible.

anyways, good luck with it, youve got the majority of the form right, keep going with all the fixes. you'll be there in no time

Greenmutze

thx for the feedback woot

i will make a new magazine, with the bend shape, i also will add the hole in the buttstock. The bolts will be modeled but i bake them on a flat plane and overlay them on the cage baked normal map of the Scar (i hope you know what i mean ^^)