Cremuss' handpainted thread
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Hello 
I've not been super productive lately but hopefully motivation is flowing back and so I'm starting a thread to show my adventures with handpainted art.
To get started, here is a few wooden planks textures that I started to paint a few days ago with Krita 2.8.
More stuff to come soon !
As usual C&C welcome
regards,
I've not been super productive lately but hopefully motivation is flowing back and so I'm starting a thread to show my adventures with handpainted art.
To get started, here is a few wooden planks textures that I started to paint a few days ago with Krita 2.8.
More stuff to come soon !
As usual C&C welcome
regards,
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More hand painted textures with some rocks this time !
C&C welcome
More handpainted textures to come soon, then I think I'll go for a hand painted fantasy weapon. It's been ages since I wanted to do one !
Regards!
JoltZero > Thanks
Fwap > Thanks. I appreciate it
Thanks for the support and kind words, I appreciate it !
Here is 5 more. I'm not too happy about those, especially the second which was a pain in the ass but well, I need to move on
C&C welcome !
regards
If so, I'd say you're won the right track!
Yeah Diablo serie is my absolute all time favorite so it'd be great to work on a diablo-like title, but I'm interested in other work as well :poly142:
Some earth textures, lava, dry earth and muddy rocky textures. I used a specular map for the last two texture just to give the water some readability, otherwise the reste is 100% diffuse only as usual.
I still spend a lot of time to do these, overall I feel like I'm improving on a few things so it's going in a good direction I think but I definitly need to work on my speed.
Next : vegetation textures, grass, leaves, flowers and such. Then, I think I'll take a break from those and finally do that handpainted weapon I've been talking about.
C&C welcome!
Regards,
I've been sick the past two weeks so it has been hard to produce anything but here is a new set of handpainted textures. I've been toying with diverse techniques for the grass and all and overall I learned a few tricks so I'm satisfied
It will be the last set for now I think, I should do more in the futur but for now I want to focus on something a bit more 3D : handpainted weapons coming next.
C&C welcome !
Regards,
Dsenter > Thanks, I appreciate it
Sotckwell > Thx
Your presentation of these is pretty fantastic.
Are you planning on doing some environments in the future? I'd love to see that.
Concerning the WIP shots, unfortunatly I do not have much to show at all. I often merge a lot of the layers during the production so in the end there's not much left to show and I didn't kept any WIP files but I will think on it the next time !
Two Listen > Concerning this particular grass texture, it's the only texture of the last two sets where I experimented the technique shown with the Siege of Ogrimmar texture thread so the grass is actual real 3d geometry. :poly124: I did not bother to texture it or anything, I just extracted as much informations as possible from the 3d meshes to paint as easily as possible the final texture.
So I baked some AO, Shadows, Depth, Normals maps, Specular, I also rendered the scene with different lighting conditions and I also created a lot of selection masks too, which is I think quite important and by far the most important technique that I use. For Instance I rendered fractions of the grass in different layers so I could select some of the grass blandes only, quickly and easily to paint some color variation and all. Same with the depth, I used the depth as a mask to quickly paint stuff on the ground and not on the top of the grass without bothering with the edge control... Then it's all about mixing everything together, adding color, handpainting some shadows, details, specular... :poly142:
I also often use a technique where I paint a few transparent textures (like just paint a few grass blades and make some variations with different shapes and colors) and use those textures on 3D planes to duplicate the grass here and there. Then it's just about rendering, creating masks and different layers and extracting as much informations as possible, just like I explained with the 3D meshes, to have as much control over your texture as possible. I feel like edge control is the most important part for me. Then handpaint details/lighting/ground/shadows so the texture looks like a whole thing and not just random duplicated grass planes, and every grass blades feels grounded and unique. This technique has the advantage to let you use the transparent textures afterwards, in a realtime scene, like to put some grass blades on top of the ground texture, and both fits pretty well since the transparent textures were used to make the ground one... well, I don't know if I'm clear :poly141:
But in most cases, I just paint from scratch, nothing fancy. I feel like the trick for me is thinking that my texture has depth and is made of layers. Like for the leaves, some are on top of the others, some are deep down at ground level, some are partially burried in the ground, so paint shadows/lighting/specular according to this height information and hopefully this will work. Colored shadows are quite important too.
Sometimes I also mix the three techniques above, so overall I don't paint my textures using one straight method, I feel like I just use all the tools I have to get the result I want.
That's all the advices I can think of right now... Hopefully this will help somebody
Here is a first weapon to warm up. A quick ghetto style one handed axe.
Let me know what you think ! C&C welcome !
Regards,
Now it's time to go to bed, good night !
One thing I wouldn't ever say 'quick' anything. I've found that it comes across as unfocused and lacking attention to detail that you need to have with this style. That's fine if it's fast but don't say that. Take your time and go through your checklist of haves for everything.
I did a really fast stepped paintover. I see a lot of the same pitfalls with prop work. The main thing is value separation. The eye needs to be able to tell what and where the different materials are.
I don't want this to come across as a beat down or discourage you. Your work is really nice and it's inspiring for me to see your progress. Keep at it!
Bradmyers82 > Thanks !
Jeff Parrott > Wooo ! Thanks a lot for the very helpful feedback !! I agree with everything. I still don't have the skill to see my props only in values so it's definitely something I have to practice. I guess I should use a B&W filter more often or just train my eyes !
Concerning the "quick" comment, I agree, I shouldn't say that
Anyway, I tried to apply your critics and here is a third version !
The prop reads a lot better now. Nice work! Can't wait to see what you do next.
A few comments/crits, if you don't mind:
-The wood tileables are very flat and sharp. Not enough of a bevel to them.
-Tiling rocks look nice! One or two of them could use more subtle breakup in the shapes to help add some variation. (cracks, vary the shapes/damaging)
I think the axe is much better prior to the tweaks you made. Things are getting real muddy, probably due to a gradient being added. Desaturating something in photoshop won't show you values, it just grays stuff out. Your values were fine, it could benefit from painting some AO in there and some subtle/soft color variation.
Try adding some compliments (green/orange into the wood). Some browns (rust) would look good on the metal, in addition to some soft blue/greens; it's a bit dull right now.
Hope this helps in some way.
Jeff Parrott > Thanks for the kind words ! I'm hear to learn so it would be a shame not to take care of critics
Mcejn > Thanks for the critics ! I agree with the wood being a bit flat, though I did that on purpose for one or two textures. I think it's good in some cases that environment textures don't pop too much so the player/monsters reads better (like D3) But I agree, stronger bevel would not hurt anyone
Concerning the axe, yeah well I'm still not sure what to do with the overall contrast of my texture and all, but I think Jeff Parrott made some pretty good points. In the other hand I think most of WoW handpainted weapons looks very flat without much contrast on values or without any strong top/down blend, and it tends to work well too I think. They rely a lot on colors to separate materials. So I'm definitely still experimenting with different styles and finding what I really want to do
That being said, here is one last go for this axe. I tweaked a lot of things, added some details, subtle colors on the wood, blade, painted a stronger AO and adjusted a bit some gradients here and there. It's the version I like the most so I'll stop here. You can't please everyone right
Next is a dagger and a two handed sword.
The last bit of criticism would be that it's a bit unbalanced right now because of the shading in the middle of the wood. Brightening up the straps a bit would help, having the shading not be cast over everything in such a uniform way.
again, good progress!
Well that took literally forever to complete haha, but here it is : a few handpainted weapons as promised.
I went back and forth a lot on almost every each of these, some models went to garbage, some textures as well so I definitely struggled a lot but I think I finally managed to get something that I'm pretty happy with. The main goal for me was to be as consistent as possible and make it feels that every weapons belong to the same world.
As usual, C&C welcome !!
Regards,
Next on the list I think is some environment props/scene. I'll experiment with a more cartoony style so we'll see how it goes ^^
A nice alternate would also be something Zelda: The Wind Waker-ish or Borderlands-ish.
I hope you know what I mean. Something that's not the often seen World of Warcraft-look. (Which would be the way to go if you're looking for a position on the WoW-Team, haha)
The metals are all rendered the same. For example the big hammer is all shiny. Why would it be shiny? That type of metal works for the polished swords but for the blunt weapons it doesn't make much sense.
It would be great to see a set all themed up. Right now it's a bit generic themed. Maybe all forrest based weapons or something?
Great work in here!