Substance Designer/DDO/NDO2

Frawmus

I need someone to help me expand my texturing pipeline. I hear these three are great tools, but do I need them all? Substance designer or just Ndo/DDO? What are the huge differences between them, It looks like substance designer is just for making the initial base texture? Or does it have PS like tools inside of it? I like how DDO handles it, quickly making the base and you've still got all your PS tools right there...

ZacD

- Ddo or Substance Designer

- http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129560

Frawmus

Thanks

Frawmus

Another quick question to add on. When using substance designer are you able to edit normal maps like in ndo? Or just bake them? Substance is more of just a procedural base texture creator than it is a detailer, that's where substance painter will come in when it is released?

rogelio

Short answear substance can do everything ndo ddo does.

So yes you can combine overlay normals for detail passes.

Substance does not come plug and play from the get go though you need to make nodes/templates be warned about this a lot people see the samples and think you can work on that kind of template from the start. Some are available now.

Xoliul

Yeah I made something like a "Ndo" ish node for Substance (it's basically just blurs, strokes and adjustments to your height map before you convert it to normal), but it's not that easy to do if you're a total noob with it. I think Allegorithmic could do with expanding their library a bit to cover these kinds of things.

I'm kind of thinking we as a community (or well maybe some powerusers like me and rogelio) should create a nice library of "polycount" nodes.

ZacD

We kinda started that in the thread, but there was really only 4 or 5 added. Maybe we should come up with mini contests or competitions, or make a substance request list.

Frawmus

I double posted -.-

Frawmus

Okay, And I read with the bit2material that allegorithmic also makes you can do with Substance, but it also said you need a bit of know how for that as well. Would bit2material be a nice addition to buy along with substance? (mostly for the tiling textures?)

ETA: nevermind, I just had to do a bit more research.