Jinx, the loose cannon, Tits WIP
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Hey guys!
Once again I'm back with yet another female character (yaaaaaah.....)
Decided to do something quite different from what I did last time with a very realistic and serious character.
Always have a little bit more trouble with stylised stuff so Jinx is definitly a small-fun little project.
If you don't know who Jinx is, there you go,
she's from League of legends and I really fell in love with the little video they made with her.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs"]Little video here[/ame]
So that's where I am right now, I am looking for comments and crits as always.
Plus I'm recording KIND of the whole process and uploading it into my youtube channel as a (very long) timelapse if it can interest anyone.
here's the first video
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXCq4UPDxG0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUKlNB0dpR1BK0y-JRh6Ju7Q"]Jinx Timelapse Part01 - YouTube[/ame]
cheers!
Once again I'm back with yet another female character (yaaaaaah.....)
Decided to do something quite different from what I did last time with a very realistic and serious character.
Always have a little bit more trouble with stylised stuff so Jinx is definitly a small-fun little project.
If you don't know who Jinx is, there you go,
she's from League of legends and I really fell in love with the little video they made with her.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs"]Little video here[/ame]So that's where I am right now, I am looking for comments and crits as always.
Plus I'm recording KIND of the whole process and uploading it into my youtube channel as a (very long) timelapse if it can interest anyone.
here's the first video
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXCq4UPDxG0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUKlNB0dpR1BK0y-JRh6Ju7Q"]Jinx Timelapse Part01 - YouTube[/ame]cheers!
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Her face looks more waifish and innocent than the concept. - I think the greatest differences are in the eyes and mouth, both of which have a very stylized shape in the concept.
I'm not really good at paintover (or zbrush for that matter), but I gave it a shot anyway :P Don't hurt me.
I adjusted her forehead a bit after I resized her head. I think her head is too big, and too high, compared to her body. And I touched a bit of her eyes area and cheekbones.
What kind of expression are you planning for her ??
Are you planning on modelling some weapons too? The bazooka looks bad ass and fun to do.
curves, she need curves.
everything is kind of stiff at the moment, get some S shapes in there.
also is the head a tad big or is just the angle?
If I may give some constructive criticism, the face doesn't really have that jinx feels. I always compared jinx lips to the one of alyson hannigan ( at least when compared with the artwork )
almost no upper lips and a smile in between the joker and a normal one :P
The eyes also don't show the cunning side of the character that is Jinx.
other than this I can see greatness await us in taht thread :P
Can't wait to see it's evolution.
DWalker Yah I know what you mean about the breast fold and the crease on her upper arm. I really like the look that they went for in the video with those kind of stylisation but I understand that some might not like it. Will consider keeping or changing it. I doo agree she looks way more innocent. My problem is, how am I suppose to sculpt her with a ''neutral'' face (so we can rig her later) without making her loose her crazy personnality?
PyrZern Thanks for the input, I agree the forehead might be a bit too high, i'll double check that. Not sure about her neck and head size, if I make her head smaller she will look even more tall (and she aldready is very tall imo). Like I said expression wise I would like to have her rig and make her do her crazy smile. Tho for the modelling process I need to keep her with a neutral expression wich is making her loose her edge-craziness look :S
victorhrz will try to accentuate the border of the mouth
Almighty_guuuuurrrlll (sorry haha) Will make sure to double check that waist, she is very very thin but I kinda liked it but you are right, it is very disproportional.
Ionet she's not so much of a curvy character to be honest but yah i'll check if you find her kind of stiff, that's really not something I want. Not sure about the head, your the second to point it out but I feel like if I make it smaller she will be too tall? (Btw love your deadpool
underfox Alyson Hannigan sure is a good reference of mouth I should go for. Unfortunatly like I said before I cannot sculpt her with the smile aldready it or It would be a pain to rig etc later. I know it's making it more difficult to recognize jinx atm. Will try to make that upper lips thinner tho! Thanks!
Thanks a lot for all the critics, was definitly not expecting that much haha!
As you probably already know, concept artists don't always get everything figured out on paper.
Still she looks cute and it will be nice to see this finished.
Unless you plan on animating the models face there is no problem with sculpting the expression in.
Jinx has a really sort of " boyish" body so dont worry too much about it being curvy i think "less is more" when it comes to this character in the womanly curves department.
-Woog
Looked up her video again the other, love the video and such a great character, so good pick
Great start so far, although I'd have to agree that the face is still a bit off. Like others said she looks too innocent at the moment. I think her eyebrows at the moment are to round, maybe making them slightly more angular like in the images it'll give her a slightly more crazy look.
Also thanks for adding progress videos! Always interesting to watch.
Actually it's part of her bikini top, so rather than falling down it would just pull down on her breasts/neck.
As far as the face goes, you really need to be going full anim
One crit I have that I don't think anyone has touched on yet is her shoulders. I think she needs to have a little more bulk at the top of her arm, or just define it more. I'm not opposed to the stylized fold on the edge of her breast but I would agree that the crease on her upper arm is strange. I don't think it is present in the Jinx character. Maybe adding the muscle would help that.
Anyways, great progress so far! This will be great to watch.
MeintevdS Yah I realize she look way too innocent, I define a ''plan of action'' to fix it, will see how that turns out!
Der Hollander dunno if its not clear enough at the moment but the bandolier around her hips, is actually a belt on mine too! is it the angle that is bugging you? This is the ingame model
talking about the face I did have a discussion with someone yersterday and realise that my character was a bit on the fence when it come to the style, I am kind of on the edge so it was hard to define If i needed to bring it back to more realistic proportion or the opposite, go all the way very stylized manga style. I decided I will go all the way to the extreme with a very stylised-anime look for the face. Keep updated for the evolution! micro rendering of the lips is just a ''left over'' because I started from my ellie character (hard to tell now but yah!) will be removed for sure! Thanks for the help!
KristaW Yah I think I know where I am going with the stylized fold of the breast, will probably be corrected in the next update
Can't wait to work on her some more, taking the direction of a very stylised-anime style character will definitly be a challenge from me. Yeah, gonna be fun!
Soooooo Little update on Jinx, I've been playing with the head for the past 2 night trying to go away a bit from that innocent-angel look and giving her a bit more of a stylized-anime style... Had some kind of trouble, really never did anything in that style before. Tbh I kind of got rid of the innocent look but now she's got a seductive vibe I think... Think i'll leave the face alone for now, Will go into more clothing and accessory and come back to it later before I frustrate myself too much hehe.
still looking forward to your crits guys, and yes i'll fix that armpit right now!!
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coming along well though Marie!
I had actually made some change aldready to the face when I saw your comment. Don't know if it fixed it but I actually change a bit of the face proportion, now the eyes are a tad lower in the face (so the nose is not as long). Eye wise I'll take a look at it but in those ''anime'' style character the eyes are very far apart. Thanks mate!
Abrvpt Francais! pardonne-moi ma grammaire hehe.
J'ai modifi
The face is getting better, and many of the differences will be caused by the texture (especially the eye shadow) and her expression. I'd take a closer look at the shape of her eyebrows, and something about her nose just seems off - too skinny and sharp, perhaps? Also notice the distinct bags under her eyes - they seem to add to the artificially hyped feel of the concept. I'd straighten the corners of her mouth for the neutral pose. The concept's ears seem rounder, without distinct lobes.
Small update, the part 02 of the timelapse is currently encoding so I should be able to upload it to youtube in the morning if anyone is interested.
That's it for now, can't wait to spend more time on her this weekend!
I agree with PyrZern on the eyebrows, she'll look a bit more adult I think.
Also I made a paintover to show what I had in mind about the face, looks a bit more proportioned I think.
There's also this kind of fold that shouldn't be that defined with this size of breasts in a bra.
Can't wait to see more !
The torso looks much more in-sync now, way more natural!
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PyrZern I'll double check her collar bone / eye brow position, thanks!
abrvpt Thanks for the paint over! I'm actually not convinced with the shorter nose tho it looks a bit funny to me !
almighty_gir Thanks man, glad you like the torso much better now and thank you for your constant input!
unit187 thanks !!
steveston89 the eye doesn,t really bug me at the moment but maybe i'll give it a shot to see if it looks better closer
Cheers!
The shoulders and arms could do with some reference, especially the deltoids.
Her face is looking pretty good, I'm not sure if her cheeks could be abit fuller or wider, as said it's hard to tell from a character that is always smiling
Anyway, its getting there, keep it up.
Lovely work you have here so far
I'd give some crits but to be honest, it'd just be repeating what others have said in face volume.
Keep going!
Azkur Did add a bit of volume to the cheeks but it doesn't really show atm
arcitecht Will check those eyes socket but that was mainly a stylistic decision I made, really trying to keep away from going realistic there
Dave Jr Thanks! Glad you like the character I picked and I'm happy you are enjoying the timelapse! About the face volume I'll work on it some more like I said earlier hehe
kaikaisushi Thanks mate!
aaaaand the update!
The thickness of the pigtails looks like she could have Rapunzel hair almost like the ropes they use on big cruise ship boats. I could be wrong on this but I saw the concept art on the first page and her pigtails don't look as thick as you have it right now. Maybe you intended it to be thicker as an artistic decision but it just seemed kind of weird to have that much thickness on each pigtail on a such a small head. Hope it doesn't set you back in anyway because those pigtails look like they are already set in stone :poly122:. Just my 2 cents.
I also think her stomach is looking a bit too flat - think you could increase the volume a little bit, maybe just by not carrying that ab line any lower than her navel.
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sorry couldnt resist a paintover
but i think the face is not quite there yet, even with this beeing the neutral pose, i'm missing the attitude in it. The nose is way way way too tiny, how wide is it at the nostrils 1cm? suuuper tiny, it may be stylized yes but the rest is sonewhat anatomical, the face looks like a semi realistic attempt on a manga character. huge eyes, tiny nose, and tiny mouth.
To me the eyes are definitely too round, not sharp enough to sell her attitude, even in pose you will have to change the face drastically to give her that jinx vibe. Same goes for the other facial features, they are just too cute for me
but thats my personal oppinion, i don't know where you want to go with her.
Boost of answers all of a suddent!
AbKI Thanks!!
Inhert Thanks! about the pigtails I did realized they might be too thick. It's a very easy fix so I will do it for sure
Two Listen Hahaha I will fix that boob line (no clue what a flapjack is tho) And yah here nose is very(too) tiny, Was trying something and it's not really something I should go for, I'll correct it
Crazyfool Haha we did the exact same thing, it's the little screen I did for someone on youtube fews weeks ago
There is a bit of expression baked into her face and my rigger will probably hate me for it but I kind of like it. It's because I went for something like that a bit wich made me do that crazy thin nose haha, my mistake!
I'll work on the face some more, hopsefully I'll get her right this time!
NeoxHaha yah DAT nose, gonna fix it hahaha I was going way too stylized there. You say you are not sure where I am going.
Well the thing is that at first I was really on the edge with a more ''realistic'' or proportionate face and a very stylised body. I am not trying to remove that ambiguity by going all the way stylised but I realise I still got to be carefull so that it make sens (like the nostril being too small) Gonna try to give it an edge while not being stock with too much expression, Gotta do some test
Can't wait to work on her some more.
Timelapse part 3 here
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Oh wow you are right, I did do it the wrong way around!! Might have to redo all the hair hahaha nooooooooooo :P
Nice work, nothing to add, we always have to redo stuff, sucks big time but hey you learn and get that much faster, nothing but a praise post will enjoy the videos and progress.
Iciban Yah I will most likely make morpher but only once she is in the low-poly stage
So I reworked her face a lot (and redid the hair!) with the help of Crazyfool's very helpfull paintover. I feel like I'm getting closer but there is really something bugging me... Feel like her eyes might be too small or too far apart now or ... something?
Not sure, suggestions guys?