Uncharted 3 Desert Agent 13 recreation

manilamerc

Hey I recently made a thread on a character I wanted to do which was half samurai and half roman soldier. You may have seen it before and maybe have seen my amateur concepts of me trying to get a nice character going. It wasn't working at all and I think it would be best for me as someone trying to become a character modeler to first try modeling good concepts rather than modeling a bad concept and wasting time. I believe I can learn a lot from modeling good concepts to one day create my own good concept. So I decided to take this character concept from the game Uncharted 3 made by either theses 3 artists:

Robh Ruppel, Andrew Kim, Eytan Zana (It didn't show who specifically made the Desert Agent character)

and make this Desert Agent character



When I'm done I plan to put this on my portfolio. Would that be alright? I also plan to reference the artist.

manilamerc

Something is bugging me about the face I have so far. Is his face too long?

Torch

Yo Manila, cool concept you got So the head can typically be divided into 3 parts, the top, brow ridge and chin. The length of the brow ridge to the chin can then be divided in half, as a landmark for the base of the nose.

Finally, the lower half of the head (the area between the base of the nose and chin) can then be further divided evenly, starting from the base of the nose, then the lips, the orbicularis oris and finally base of the chin, as shown in the diagram.



I hope that makes sense, I can understand if this seems convoluted at first

Right now it seems the nose is too long, the lips and chin also seem to be way too low. The eyes could also use some tweakage. I hope that helps a little, keep going with it!

manilamerc

update on head

manilamerc

Hey guys I've been struggling with the clothing. Not happy with it especially the pants. What do you guys think of it so far?

Joao Sapiro

the head is suffering from "not using references and modeling by my own imagination syndrome" mate get some good references of human heads that resemble the one you want to do and try to match it. Good luck !

Torch

Hey, you're welcome for the head crit by the way, not like it took a short time to put together or anything ¬_¬

The cloth looks like melted chocolate as a result of you subdividing way too early, therefore your sculpt is coming out lumpy. Drop down a few levels, study reference more closely.

manilamerc

I changed the head and pants

manilamerc

manilamerc

Hey what can you guys make out of his belt? Not sure what to sculpt there

manilamerc

Oh and here is an update on my sculpt

manilamerc

Hey here is an update on the head and the hat and scarf
I currently hate how my scarf and hat is going. Do you guys use any brushes that you think my help me this? It looks blobby right now

For the head I'm using arnold schwarzenegger.

manilamerc

Here is an update with all his accessories. Please give some feedback. It's been a while since anyone gave me it.

dpadam450

Hands might be a bit small for such a big dude. Or maybe just the length of the fingers.

manilamerc

thanks for the crit will do

manilamerc

I was doing some face detailing tell me what you think?




made straps a bit thicker


am I ready for retopo?

Auldbenkenobi

Hey, I remember your Roman Samurai character and it looks like you're making much better progress with this character instead. I think his nose might be a bit too small in your sculpt whereas in the concept it's pretty prominent.

Looking really cool otherwise!

manilamerc

Yeah my reference for the face was Arnold Swartenegger. I thought my concept looked like him. I also thought he looked like David Beckham. But yes my concept's nose looks bigger. Ill but some work in.

Spikings

If memory serves correctly, I believe the desert level of the game was in and around the location of Yemen, essentially the Middle East / Africa. But you're using Arnold Schwarzenegger, an Austrian American citizen, and also David Beckham, a British citizen for facial reference. While they may bear similarities, they're ultimately not from the same ethnicity, so it would be more difficult to grasp the subtleties.
Here are a few Yemeni faces I found on google, with similar facial features to this character here. Maybe that will help?

manilamerc

@Spikings Thanks for the input. I was thinking f making him a middle east man but the concept looked more like a white man to me. Plus in the game Marlowe is white British woman so even when I was playing I assumed the agents were white. I'm not trying to sound right, just telling my reasons why I went this way. If you have any other reason he could be middle eastern please tell

Here is a video of the agent in action and his voice sounds like a white guy. Skip to 2:43

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23mMZ6eDwI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23mMZ6eDwI[/ame]

manilamerc

Oh here is what I found on his biography
Desert Agent 13 is one of Marlowe's agents, forming part of the private army that works for Katherine Marlowe, the head of a British secret society. Desert Agent 13 is one of Marlowe's desert agents, and has been prepared in desert combat; he is identifiable from the white head wrap he wears, and the goggles he wears over the wrap. Desert Agent 13 is a Caucasian male, and like the rest of Marlowe's agents, is British

heres the link http://uncharted.neoseeker.com/wiki/Desert_Agent_13

Spikings

Ah, fair enough then. I think the difference between the concept and the in-game model threw me off a bit. Well in that case, just keep going with what you're doing, looks good.

manilamerc

alright I think I'm going to retopo, any crits are welcome.

manilamerc

I'm done my retopo. Tell me if there's something wrong or inconsistent, unnecessary, or something I could have done better. I want this character to be the Uncharted 3 quality of a main character. So far this guy is 21,218 tri's and 10,955 polys

manilamerc

I'm a huge noob in lighting. I am using the Xoliul Shader and he looks so glossy and shiny. Is there any Xoliul users out there that can help me out?

BobtheGreatII

Try adjusting the strength of the specular map or gloss map. Until you have a specular map, it's just going to let light bounce all over the model.

manilamerc

I'm using the Xoliul Shader and I have diffuse and normals. I still not a long way to go with the textures. But I'm getting there

manilamerc

So I have been taking some time off this project but I am coming back to it at the momment. I am not so good at the low poly stage and I am a beginner in texturing. I have been using DDO to texture and I do like how the program works. My character looks quite different from the sculpt and I am not too happy with him.

The problem I have here today is that the pupil is not center with the eye socket. My character appears to be cross eyed. If I try moving it to the side the eye ball pops out. I have tried making it smaller and positioning it but the eye just seems too small when I resizeie it for centering it out. I tried rotating the eyeballs and although it looked better it wouldn't be right because no ones eyes are naturally rotating in opposite directions. (unless you lazy eyed) I am not sure if my sculpt is anatomically correct or not. From my understanding character modelers use the circular edges on the top of the sphere to see where the pupil texture will be. I tried that and it is just off center. I may restart the head If I have to. Also... do you guys know any good texturing tutorials or techniques? Especially the scruff on the jaw line and the eyebrows. I'm trying to explore my textureing side because my teachers in school did not teach enough of that. Please and thanks

manilamerc

So it's my first time using DDO. I do like the program. I had issues with it crashing but a part of that is from needing a stronger graphics card. I am done with this I think.. I may tweak some changes depending on what people say. I believe he is around 30,000 tri's. I forgot to triangulate the pants (silly me). Right now I think I just want to focus strictly on anatomy.

manilamerc

Ok there, pictures working now

BagelHero

You don't need to pre-triangulate your mesh in most cases, and certainly not to display it. It makes it difficult to see what's going on; I couldn't critique your edge flow if I tried. Keep it quads if you want people to tell you what you could do better mesh-wise.

Anyway, your sculpt is good, but to be brutally honest here... Your texturing ruins it.

Your colors are hamfisted; you seem to be slapping down what you THINK you see as opposed to what you're actually seeing. Have a look here at Realistic Skin Texturing ala Yuri Alexander, Next Gen Texturing Timelapse from Gav, and Texturing Tutorials (Polycount Wiki) to give you a better idea of what you should be doing while texturing. And make a good spec/gloss as well, that should help improve it dramatically.

Also, have a look at getting a good 3-point lighting setup.

Also see:
http://www.marmoset.co/toolbag/learn/character-lighting
http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/light.htm
http://www.amaanakram.com/lightingT/part1.htm

Also, IDK if it's the shader or what, but your normal map looks kinda whacky. What did you use to bake?

manilamerc

I used Xnormal to create the normals. I am using the Xoliul Shader