Portfolio piece - Middle age training model

Dolmen

Hello,

last few days, I tried to search some new interesting props and environment pieces to add to my portfolio.
From my last projects I realized that I always want to do too much or too big.
So I will try from now, this new year 2014 , to do things gradually.
First simple props, then little environments, etc.

So on this good resolutions this my first try.
A medieval training model from a concept of Ocaaa by Skazka.

I made a mix between the first one and the second with rocks.
Here is a first paint over with the Zbrush sculpt for some colours test.
What do you think ? Personally I think that something is missing, maybe more details ?

HammerFist3D2D

Hey man, really awesome. I am big fan of wow, torchlight looking models. I have no suggestions except keep good work.
How did u do textures?

Dolmen

Texture is just for now a paintover of the 3d model render in Zbrush with different matcaps to test some colours before retopo and texturing on real uv's.
Thanks HammerFist3D2D.

Any suggestions about colours ?

Megacorpse

Make your highlights pop out, especially on the metal. Look at the concept, when it comes to hand-painted textures you should always define a light direction. You can also add fake ambient occlusion between the wood and metal parts. Also, your wood has to be darker and contrast with the shining parts of the metal.

I think it has the right amount of color variation, though. The brown spots on your metal really sell it.

Dolmen

Thanks for feedbacks,

so after some computer problems (I think it is time to change my computer),
this is the first pass on the LP with normal, diffuse and specular maps.
(Render with Xoliul shader 2.0 with 3dsmax 2012)

Dolmen

Yop, and this is the mostly final texture.
But I really would like more feedbacks to improve my texturing skills.

Thank you very much.

Lokter

I know you will hate me for this, but the main issue I have with it, is it has no function. What you were most likely going for was a Quintain, which has a shield on one arm, with a sandbag or a wooden pole as the other arm. The idea is that a knight would hit the shield with their lance and the whole thing would spin, and they had to avoid being knocked off.

What you have right now doesn't actually function how it looks like its meant to. It looks nice, but I just find it hard to look at it and accept its purpose.

Dolmen

You absolutely right Lokter but the main goal of this was not to create a really functional asset but to do something nice to improve my texturing skills and to stay as close as possible to the original concept.

But thank you anyway.

And what games don't have some non functional or non credible assets.
Mario eat mushroom and walk through pipes. :poly142:

Sebvhe

So Awesome ! The sculpt is really good too
I still see 2 improvements you might want to do.
First you should decrease the occlusion between the planks a little bit, it's quiet black for the moment.
Then you should bake an occlusion map on a second UV set in order to get some occlusion for instance where the rope is attached to the wood. Of course that's only if you're not using realtime occlusion later.

stevston89

Looks real nice. Though the proportions being so far off the concept bugs me a bit. I think the contrast between the dark and the light is too much. Also the metal could use some more contrast still. Here is a quick paint over.

Nistrum

i think you will find lokter that this is some sort of tower defence style asset. whereby if you get to close it swings round and clouts you in the face with a sandbag. hence the progression to morningstar arms on the bigger one.

although i get what you're saying about the quintain which is obviously the inspiration for it...

EDIT: loving the change you made to that metal. much nicer

Dolmen

Thanks for c&c,

I made some change with centre barrel proportion.
Some ffd box, ...

I will try now to improve metal specular.:)



Edit : A first test to improve specularity on metal parts.

_Kratos_

Awesome work man!

Nistrum

yeah, getting there. i would even say push it further

Dolmen

Maybe add some Fresnel reflection,
what do you think ?

Nistrum

personally i really like the end one. but i suppose you might be at risk of flattening your texture a little too much. hard to say...

stevston89

Looking much better. I think the fresnel looks good. I would just tone it back a bit.

Dolmen

I reduced a little bit the reflection.

jeremiah_bigley

I think the piece is really nice man! Good work!
Small paintover just to show maybe what you could tweak. Needs more volume. The whole thing reads kind of flat.

Keep up the nice work man! Looking forward to more stuff like this.

Dolmen

Hi guys,

after some minor change,
this is the final one.

For the next one, I think I will make a more science fiction prop.
Futuristic bag or other think like that.
Always base on a existing concept art.

Dolmen

This is the last update for this project, with a turn around video. (Marmoset)
Thanks for all your support.

http://youtu.be/ZZNIgvZ8ELg