Pastatore's Workshop ...

Pastat7

Hi everybody, this is my first post. I am complete noob in modeling world and I just uploaded my first item to Workshop. It is called "Freeman's pick", this is the first item in the set for Meepo that I have in my mind. I would like some help because I honestly think that my concept of Meepo as a rugged runaway slave miner with long dirty beard and rusty shackles, dressed in scraps would be a nice step away from regular miner sets.

I will submit my item concepts and design in hope that you will give me constructive critics and help me improve my work.



Here is a link to my workshop page http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=211997826

Pastat7

Here's a poleaxe concept that I have been working on... Unfortunately I have no idea how to make some kind of magic animations that would represent some ethereal force holding the blades... hope someone likes it ...

Pastat7

Here is my Meepo concept ... sorry for bad drawings, hope you will give me some advice on this

Pastat7

Reworking my highpoly for meepo pickaxe ... any feedback would be great

10x in advance

Pastat7

can someone explain how to avoid smoothing up spikes with smoot and turbo smooth modifiers. Thx!

Pastat7

Here is my lod0 ... the textures look poor

quockhanhlk

i think you should really avoid those tiny details, because from the in-game view, those details will be disappeared i think

Pastat7

ofc they will, but my promo image is a piece of s.... and in lack of feedback i was trying to make something for promo .. ofc my sculpting sucks

cagdasx44

ı think you should work on axe, it shouldnt be this clear.

Pastat7

while on job in KSA, thinking of a troll warlord concept ... This is ranged weapon, inspired by construction workers hatchet, soon will follow up with its melee counterpart which will be hammer ... please comment and or contact me if interested in collaboration

Pastat7

Here comes melee concept, just a crude drawing in paint..

Pastat7

working on the concepts for meepo shoulders and arms, just some rough hand drawings... this is broken barrel left shoulder pad, and a right hand shackle that was originaly chained to meepos pickaxe...

Idea is to have only left shoulder and only right arm slot


Any feedback is welcome ...

Pastat7

I have decided to go with a little different pickaxe design, here is my work so far in the lowpoly part

Any advice welcome

Pastat7

Here is my progress on the pick tuning, hope you have any critics this time

http://imageshack.com/a/img850/6143/aoo0.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img20/1149/j7iw.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img841/15/jq8o.jpg

Pastat7

thanks for the tip, I was aiming at displaying only decoration on the botom of the handle as well as meepos original geomancy simbols in self ilumination, for the handle part I will try to emphasise in photoshop. This scultp was more for promo art than anything else. I will post some ingame images and later maybe rework it as you proposed. Thx for feedback

Reyne

The level of detail you are using is inappropriate for the camera distance of Dota 2. You seem t ofocus on delicate shapes when Dota 2 art is all about bold, graphical shapes. This is because in the game a weapon takes up very few pixels and anything small just becomes noise.

Some examples to look at:

Consider how the chain on your weapon compares to chains on other heroes (Spirit breaker for example). See if you can find a way to make something equally bold for your weapon.

For the wood grain, go bigger and fewer. Any search for hand painted game art should come up with fairly appropriate scale wood grain.

And as for the metal parts, you should focus initially on silhouette and then surface details from there. You have a lot of delicate shapes and acute angles (mainly on the 'front') that wouldn't really read well in game. And what I am assuming is a rivet/nail thing could easily be a much simpler shape and it would be more noticeable from a distance.


Keep at it, I am sure you will get better with revision.

And if you compare what you have done with the art that is already in the game and disagree with me, then that is fine I am only really a beginner too.

Good luck!

Pastat7

hi guys once again any feedback is apreciated

This is base color with normal map

Pastat7

Also I would like to ask you for some help since I am new on this forum can you please point me in right direction how to make this chain on my item loose, flailing around as the weapon moves in dota 2 ?

Pastat7

just refreshing can anyone help with the chain ?
Thx in advance

cagdasx44

Pastat7 wrote: »

just refreshing can anyone help with the chain ?
Thx in advance

You can attach the chains to hood bone, (I dont know if meepo has it but he has a hood so he should have). But it will probably not work well, so the if you want it to be perfect tou need to create your own bones llike Tvidotto does.

Pastat7

Can you please link Tvidotto's contents, thx..

cagdasx44

Here is his LC weapon for last months comp. He said he used 4 new bone.
www.polycount.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2008670&postcount=280
And a link to his website,
http:// www.tvidotto.com/

Pastat7

Just a quick question, the mass fx modifier will work with dota 2 ?

Pastat7

Since I had to give up on the chained pick concept, here is something new I have been working on.

Any comment is welcome, thx guys

Pastat7

Here is some progres on my highpoly for my meepo shovel, hope I can get any feedback from you

cagdasx44

Cracks looks silly, the cracks' place not looking normal.

Pastat7

It was suposed to be an arm reaching from the shovel

Pastat7

Still working on the shovel, any feedback is very welcome..

Pastat7

good point !

Pastat7

Concidering earlier comments I quickly concepted new style for meepo shovel.
I would like to get some feedback on an idea from you guys

cagdasx44

I think a wooden shovel wont work for a miner.

Pastat7

Thx for your feedback m8, i Washington Just trying to think out of te bok. Tko many conventional pickaxes and shovels are on the ws. Perhaps this would look interesting in game, especialy because i am planing to make a set based on using barrel for all items. Amy feedback welcome

Sukotto

You're still applying too much high frequency detail. The wood grain is too small to be readable at a distance and I have no idea what the thing attaching the shovel to the handle is, its too blobby and noisy. Try going down a few subdivisions and smooth the details out

Pastat7

it was suposed to be a piece of wood plank, with a piece of metal sheat nailed to it but you opened my eyes it does look like nothing at all i just reworked my lowpoly to give it more wooden look. will repost for further feedback

Pastat7

WIP still working on meepo set with alexty91... so far weapon is done modeling and basic color map
I would like your feedback guys

Thankx alot

cagdasx44

WOW, You really thought out pf the box, this is a unique shape and color, I am sure it will be noticed in game. Keep it up.

Pastat7

posting meepo set WIP, any feedback would be great .. thx

Pastat7

WIP meepo set, any feedback is more then welcome

FollowBuddha

GJ, but i think back is a littlebit strange. need more detail ot something

Pastat7

Meepo crystal gladiator WIP

Any feedback is very welcome... this is without sculpting only back shoulder and head slots...

Vayne4800

I am impressed that you doing such detail in max.

Pastat7

You are being cynical or ? Not quite sure i get where you are aiming ...

Pastat7

Wip Concept by Reyne - Mirana bow

Any feedback welcome

Pastat7

Collab with Reyne

Pastat7

Collaboration with Cam Crawford, any comment is welcome

Baddcog

Meepo set is looking pretty cool.

CamCrawfordNZ

nice man it looks solid!!

Pastat7

Working on the turtle staff with dokidoki - Any feedback is welcome
Concept

Highpoly

Pastat7

Finishing ck weapon of a strimax concept




C&C welcome