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  • motenai
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    motenai polycounter lvl 18
    Well it's definitely lacking a handle if you ask me :)
    You clearly have a specific idea in your mind that you want to achive, but the structure i see feels a bit fragile and weird in the shapes.
    Do you have a concept to work on?
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
    motenai wrote: »
    Well it's definitely lacking a handle if you ask me :)
    You clearly have a specific idea in your mind that you want to achive, but the structure i see feels a bit fragile and weird in the shapes.
    Do you have a concept to work on?

    Haha i haven done that handle part :D But I almost out of tri count edi
    well , I have a concept of demon looking bow actually .

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    the drawn part is an extension of the glove , which makes them a weapon set .
    The hand part i think is quiet lacking too . Suggestion ? Btw this is the 1st time i did 3d stuff .
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
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    upgraded , luckily it hit exactly 400 tri
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
    Guys , seniors , I really need help here . Patience is really required to clear my problem
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    First of all i shall introduce everything .

    The normal map etc was made by the highpoly , base mesh as lowpoly , and the cage .

    1) Image 1 is the all the map rendered from xnormal ( very messy , need feedback on the UV )
    2) High poly
    3) Base Mesh as low poly
    4) Cage ( Cloned from base mesh and push it according to the true lowpoly from zbrush ) . I was unable to import the high poly to Max due to memory error and crashes .

    The circle is colored according to the parts . The xnormal render it wrongly according to the part I want .
    Red Idk which it render == I wanted the red part ( front and back ) from the high poly .
    Orange It render the back part instead

    I am very sure the coordinate and orientation for all the polys is the same . ( The coordinate is set according the imported true lowpoly - since it is the same as high poly ) . No YZ flipping for the export .

    Do any 1 know the problem ? The Uv mapping was 100% according to the part I want in high poly . I hope someone can really correct my error .
  • tja
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    tja polycounter lvl 3
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    Couldnt you overlay those UV sections to save space and make a texture that mirrors?

    If you upload a fbx ill have a go at laying the pieces out, may as well get some practice.

    Also, image 1 looks like an ambient occlusion map, wasnt it suppose to be a normal?
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
    tja wrote: »
    Couldnt you overlay those UV sections to save space and make a texture that mirrors?

    If you upload a fbx ill have a go at laying the pieces out, may as well get some practice.

    Also, image 1 looks like an ambient occlusion map, wasnt it suppose to be a normal?

    what do you mean y that :P

    Actually i wanted to make 2 color , left and right with diff colour . hence I am only make front and back mirror . The top left and top right pieces was the sub part of the overall . I think i made a mistake there .

    And the map was layered based on tutorial , normal , ao , cavity etc . So yeah . The major problem was the wrong bake it give me :(
  • Reyne
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    Reyne polycounter lvl 6
    I am not the best at baking but from what I see there you could improve your UV layout like tja said but you are also having a few other issues.

    The simplest to fix is that you are not showing us a normal map, but more likely the preview you got when rendering the normal map out.


    Other problems include:

    You need to have your low poly use a single smoothing group. (Or a single group per area that you don't want a really hard edge.)

    Your mesh is intersecting (as is your cage) this means that when the projection is being calculated it is being blocked by the back face of the other geometry.

    Beyond that I can't say because I'm not excellent at baking and I don't fully understand what you are trying to do with the symmetry/lack of
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
    Reyne wrote: »
    I am not the best at baking but from what I see there you could improve your UV layout like tja said but you are also having a few other issues.

    The simplest to fix is that you are not showing us a normal map, but more likely the preview you got when rendering the normal map out.


    Other problems include:

    You need to have your low poly use a single smoothing group. (Or a single group per area that you don't want a really hard edge.)

    Your mesh is intersecting (as is your cage) this means that when the projection is being calculated it is being blocked by the back face of the other geometry.

    Beyond that I can't say because I'm not excellent at baking and I don't fully understand what you are trying to do with the symmetry/lack of
    well i just push it out so that all the part is covered by the cage . However , it is impossible to do so without intersecting . Do I need to move everything ( for cage , low , high poly ) so that it wont intersect ? I will have problem for high poly since I cant open it in Max due to memory problem and crashes
  • Reyne
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    Reyne polycounter lvl 6
    You could bake the overlapping sections separately and then combine the bakes into one file in a 2d editing program?

    Also to open in max try using decimation master.
  • tja
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    tja polycounter lvl 3
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    This is the normal map setting i use for xnormal. (ignore file path, 512x512 is clinkz bow, but 2x resolution, dota shrinks it)

    You might have the ambient occlusion on (ticked)? If so, untick it.
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
    Reyne wrote: »
    You could bake the overlapping sections separately and then combine the bakes into one file in a 2d editing program?

    Also to open in max try using decimation master.

    Bake separately and texture it according to the part i want ?
    tja wrote: »
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    This is the normal map setting i use for xnormal. (ignore file path, 512x512 is clinkz bow, but 2x resolution, dota shrinks it)

    You might have the ambient occlusion on (ticked)? If so, untick it.

    The settings is the same except for edge padding ( 14 ) . The i do swtich on ambient . Others is all the same .
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
    Guys , I had figure it out the problem !!! The uv is mirrored hence it give the wrong part . THX for your concern guys :D .
    Reyne wrote: »
    You could bake the overlapping sections separately and then combine the bakes into one file in a 2d editing program?

    Also to open in max try using decimation master.

    It works! However I have to import and export by parts since I still has the massive polygon .
  • BohSheh
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    BohSheh polycounter lvl 11
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