[UDK] Industrial Studio Apartment

Revel

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Latest Shot (12/09/2013)

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Original Post

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Alright finally decided to start personal project and was busy with it for the past 3-4 weeks on my weekend and my free time after work on the weekdays. Set this project as a learning process of modo and UDK. I had a great time learning the software, even though UDK tutorials already sleep on my HDD since 2009 but just got a chance to sit down and watch it in the past 1-2 months lol

Basically the scene is loosely based on this blog post about her new industrial apartment and the first time I saw the pic of that empty used industrial building room I just fell in love with the style and decided to start my biggest personal project yet so far...wasn't aim for an exact replica though, also added stuff to make it more interesting and background story, rather then just empty scene.

Modelling stage generally all done and here is the screen from UDK with flat shading:




Current progress:
10/10/2013



I'd love to hear what do you guys think about on how to improve it.

NegevPro

I like the look of it so far. Personally I would try to dim the lights in some areas to make it look like an overall "dirtier/darker" type of environment to match the worn textures.

Revel

Hi NegevPro, thanks for the feedback, yeah d light seems to play a huge impact even on a temp setting.

So here is my current progress:
10/15/2013


Not too sure with the wall color just yet, might change to another color in the future~

JoshVanZuylen

Your pipes are very shiny. They would be mor mat if not rusted in places. But I'm sure you know that.

JGreentheRookie

Like were this is going Subcribed

leleuxart

I love industrial apartments. This is looking nice so far

Like JoshVanZuylen said, I think the pipes and airvents are a little too shiny/reflective. With that said, the floor also seems less reflective? It might just be the dark texture.

dissonance

Wow, that's a huge leap in quality you've made between those two posts.

I'm assuming the foreground colors are gonna draw attention away from the fire sprinklers, right?

Revel

Thanks for the words peoples~

Yeah maybe my previous pipe shader slightly too reflective but I don't think I will make it matte as it makes the whole scene too plain. Rust is a good idea to add though, will keep that in mind!

Minor update screen~
- metal shader, less spec/reflective, added a dust layer accumulated on the +Z direction, added instance material for the pipe's wire that hang it on the ceiling more matte, diffuse tint mask for the sprinkler's head instead of all red
- floor, added more reflection
- ceiling, increase lightmap resolution to 64 to catch the sprinklers ao and make it look less like floating in mid air
- added post process to the overall mood, might be too strong at the moment, what do you guys think?
- fog is a little bit hard to control, it makes the scene less contrast?..hmm not too sure about it yet...



@leleuxart - oh yeah I wish I had an industrial apartment too haha!
@dissonance - I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this "I'm assuming the foreground colors are gonna draw attention away from the fire sprinklers" can explain a bit more?

dissonance

I meant that they're a very bright shade of red, and immediately drew my eye to them.

adam

Will you be sticking to the motif of a grungy structure with a 'grungy' feel coming from the rock music instruments everywhere? Contrasting modern elements to this setting will go a long way.

http://www.murraymitchell.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/industrial_studio_space.jpg
http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/153/3/7/industrial_loft_by_denisvema-d3hvp4s.jpg
http://imgur.com/a/WtHco

Revel

@dissonance - ah I see, yeah I've been looking at Mirror's Edge screen for quite sometime now and maybe you might can guess from where I got the idea of sprinklers suppose to be bright red!..haha, but I guess I did reduce it slightly on my latest screen, no? I'll look into that..thanks!

@adam - hey man, yeah I wont make all the instruments all that rusty and grungy, I plan to make it somewhat interesting place to shoot a video clip for a punk-rock band for example. An old building which function has been replaced by several owners, so those walls are stay the same and get older and older while the furniture and instruments are getting new every time it changed its owner. So can see the different timeline between them and added a story into the scene~
And thanks for the reference~

Revel

Minor WIP shot;
10/18/2013



Update the back windows with the proper (wip) shader and a UV2 arrange. Also still play around with the lighting/ fog/ light shafts and all those thing till at least I'm quite happy with the result so far, but probably tomorrow come back to this scene and I start to hate it again lol

Wanted to add some kind of dust/ dirty lens effects but probably that's for some other day since I still got many props that haven't got a proper unwrap yet.

Ranko

I think your textures look a bit too noisy in places, I would dial that back a bit. Also have some edge wear on the sections that extrude out of the wall, currently its really noticeable that you are just tiling a texture across all your surfaces..you want to avoid that as much as possible. Also the dark bottom rim of the walls looks too dark, I would brighten that a bit and gave its some texture

robert.nally

SSAO felt a bit too strong especially in the early shots. I agree the textures look a bit too noisy, maybe leave some places for the eye to rest. I would maybe use some depth of field to blur that skybox coming through the windows or just replace it with a simple blue gradient sky. The edges of the interior near the windows feel a bit too sharp given how beaten the wall is, maybe bevel them a bit?

Also, this is maybe just me, but I might make the opposite side wall the orange color. You see more of that wall so why not draw some more attention to it especially since you have some foreground elements on the right anyway. It might also fix your possible too much noise issue.

Hope that helps.

Revel

Finally come the time to update this *dusty* thread. So aftr much of a struggle to learn UDK/ modo functionality while doing this project, up till this point finally I can feel much more confident working with them. I feel this project is kinda bit dragging too long, around 2 months++, so I've decided to just focus on the main area and forget the rest, so you wont see any update on the kitchen/ toilet side of the room anymore :poly124: at least for now.

So here is what I've come up with so far, wip;
11/25/2013




@Ranko & robert.nally
Thanks guys, yeah I agree about the texture being noisy, most probably it's because of the normal map compression that make my normal map looks damn noisy especially up close, is there anyway to minimze this? I havent try the uncompress normal map setting though, cus they will even cut off my map resolution by half, so I guess it will make it more worst?

Oh and about the perfect edge, yeah will break them up a little next time, but I got add a decal texture already, just need to tweak the model abit next.

Also another thing that I notice is that in UDK you can use the merge map method (as is R is for one map, G is another and B also different map combine into a single RGB map) but the channel bleed to one another, so on R i can see abit of the information from G and B, same goes with G and B channel.

For example like Tor Frick's 1 map sci-fi environment, how did he got a very clean results with a merge map? Anyone got any suggestion for this?

ZacD

I would add more divisions to the roof AC ducts, and the drum cymbals. The ducts are a bit too chromey, and could use more blured reflections.

Revel

Yeah I got complain from my friend that saying cymbal suppose to be more round, will fix that! Now that you mention about the airduct, it does kinda angular to me now as well, especially the ring that holds the pipe on the ceiling, 8 sides for that big curve is not enough, moar polys~~

Yeah mybe blurred reflection will help the airduct material looks more natural as well, got it! Thanks man!

Snader

Your fabric texture is way, way off scale.

Ged

the ssao is waaaay too dark and thick, see if you can tone it down to a more realistic level! other than that it looks great!

Revel

Alright! I guess this will be the final update for this scene (unless anyone got a good reason to ask me to work on further, that is ).

12/09/2013




Thanks to Ged, Snader, and the rest of you guys who comments/ critics or view my progress up till this point.

I've updated the edge counts for the cymbal and pipes, scale down the fabric texture scale, also updating ao/ ssao in general, and build with production quality light build. Although there is many ups and downs moment while I'm working on it (even up to the point of wanted to delete the whole progress just to force myself to start a new one...which is obviously a bad idea and thank god I didn't do that~) I'm happy with the result as this is my first project using UDK and can't wait to start a new one based on the knowledge that I got from doing this scene!

I'd love to hear what you guys think about it; good/ bad/ average/ anything, really..so that I can be more alert about it on my next project.

Blaisoid

10/10, would jam.

I'm not a big fan of those holes in concrete though. they look very obviously photosourced, very flat and probably out of scale (too big compared to the bass). The fact that cables that go over them are 100% straight emphasizes their flat nature. Not to mention that installing stuff on a heavily damaged part of the wall doesn't seem too logical.
And also, I feel that amout of damage, rust and wear in those holes doesn't match other textures in the room.

Other than that I'm really digging that scene; a cool topic and solid execution.

mats effect

Loving the polycount banner in the background. Great work the wall on the right really catches my eye, great job on the gradual fade between plaster to paint.

Snader

Still far too large. Even a rough fabric like a burlap sack is much finer.

This coffee bag is about 3x2 feet, your flag looks to be about four or five times that.


At the scale you're working with you should hardly see anything of the fabric weaving. Instead you should get your detail from small folds and crumplings. Right now all you have is a simple drape, no medium detail and relying purely on fabric for small detail, while really you should have different sized folds handling the medium and small detail.

Tadao215

i think part of what makes that brick wall look flat is that straight vertical edge on the corner. maybe break up that contour so it looks more like separate bricks.

RogelioD

This enviro is lookin pretty slick. Here are a few things:

-I would populate the foreground more. Everything interesting is in the mid or background.

-The only object that you do have in the midground is that super straight super vertical line from the wall on the left. Either shift some verts around or add something to remove that visual anomaly.

-I personally would remove the text on the polycount sign. Including it just feels off to me. I'd also make it smaller.I feel like it's sort of overshadowing all your other cool and well made props.

I can't emphasize enough how much visual interest in the foreground would make this pop. But either way this is an awesome piece! Looking forward to your next! Great job!