[Unity] rock pack WIP

Strkl

Hello all,

I decided to start working on a Rocks pack for the asset store

my goal for now :

• 3 big rocks + 3 little rocks (Shared uv space for 1 big + 1 small)
• 2 tileables texture
• 5 cliff models (using the tileable texture)
• and a scene for presentation

What's done :

• 2 big rock + 1 small

And i'll maybe include the zbrush and psd file, and other source for sharing within the package

video tutorials :

• part 1 : High Poly Sculpt Youtube / Vimeo
• part 2 : Bake & Retopo Youtube / Vimeo
• part 3 : Texturing Youtube / Vimeo
• part 4 : Tileable Texture Youtube

Playlist :
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUaaf_GznFt6N2HY_xqogcYXtyWMg-l5S

there's the first rock !

unity render

marmoset render (I try to stay away from marmoset because the final product will be in unity after all)

zbrush

Orgoth02

This rocks!

r4ptur3

nice rock dude

ErichWK

Cool, man! I had mad respects for fellow rock sculptors. What are your brushes of choice for these babies?

Cordell Felix

Dude. Best rock I've seen in a long time. The textures are fabulous.
This is just using a tileable texture?

dissonance

Very nice!

My only suggestion is that if you're looking for a way to add some fine detail, plumose fractures might be the way to go; it kinda looks like you already have some going in the last picture, top-center of the leftmost rock.
There are plenty of other kinds of shapes and patterns that you can add in either just the diffuse or just the normal; have a quick look through this (don't worry about the math).

Strkl

thanks everyone !

@ErichWK I'll try too post some timelaspe to show my process (both for tileable texture & rocks alone) and for my diffuse too.
I use mostly trim dynamic & trim smooth border (customized a bit) with some alphas, some clay brushes (with alpha again)

I also use a custom insert mesh brush to add some small pebble (but again, i'll make a video tutorial later)

@Cordell Felix thanks, this one got a specific set of diffuse & normal (i'll post them tomorrow) but I'm almost done with the first tileable texture

@dissonance Thanks for the link ! That's a nice idea to add those details, with these rocks I'm trying to stay generic without too many flashy details, since they will be used to populate levels, and there will be many of the same model duplicated everywhere ^^, but again, thank for the link, I'll check it out!

Mr Significant

Subbded! looks great. I'll wait for the timelapse ;D

gartht3d

excellent work Strkl. This threads in my 'best threads' folder. Cant wait for the video:)

Strkl

Thanks all, some progress (or not)

I finished a tileable texture, but frankly I'm not happy with it, and Its not good enough for the quality I'm targeting so I think i'll redo it again, but here's the screens anyway !

I'm not happy with the shapes & the diffuse, I'll put this one aside for now

quick test in unity with a simple shader blending 2 diffuse & 2 normal using vertex color

Bek

You have high standards; I think that looks great. As does your first sculpt.

Strkl

Thanks, It looks kinda cool on a plane or whatnot but used on a terrain or a real production setting the tiling and the shape stand out quite a bit ^^


I finished the video of the sculpting & retopo & maps baking, I'll do the texturing tomorrow and post the video this week or next week

Strkl

Just A quick question, for the sculpting video what do you prefer, a quick time lapse or real time video (the video is 30 min long maybe that's too boring too watch)

cg18

Whatever you upload is fine for me men, just put good background music

Really good output, keep it up.

dissonance

Wenda's World Machine to CE/UDK video(s) were hours long and I was fine with that. I'd prefer that you leave in bits for us to skip over rather than cut something out and have us wishing it was left in.

Also, I agree with Bek; it looks just fine to me.

Mr Significant

I prefer the long video with some commentary, but with some good ambient music should be cool too.

Strkl; how did you get your normals? Via MRGBZ grabber with standard Normal MatCap? Because it's very strong. Did you try the AO_normal_matcap from pixologic site?

Also great diffuse. Unity get this quality down. As always.

hollandje

Bek

Strkl wrote: »

It looks kinda cool on a plane or whatnot but used on a terrain or a real production setting the tiling and the shape stand out quite a bit

What if you include it in your pack as a small (512?) texture so it's obviously not meant to be tiled across large surfaces but can be used for smaller sections? Just a thought.

And I'd be fine with a long video. If in doubt you could always do both

Strkl

I think I'll do as you said Bek !

@Mr Significant I usually do two grab one with the default zbrush normal matcap and the one from the website, and blend the two to get the result I'm going for, But you're right this one is a bit to high right now^^


Here a quick update, I finished the second rock on zbrush (baking done also)

I did record the sculpting & the baking process, I'll record the texturing tomorrow I think...

here's the video ! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zba75oVqxw&feature=youtu.be

https://vimeo.com/76156627

Snafubar7

Thanks for the vids!

Brandon Kern

Thanks for the videos! This is awesome man.

Razorb

Very kind for doing the videos ! and absolutely lovely rocks buddy!

Mr Significant

YouTube what the hell is wrong with you?

Strkl thanks for the video. Very nice music.

Strkl

thanks guys, I'll edit the video of the baking process soon, after this rock is done i'll do a video,of my process for tileable textures!

cromadbomber

hello im kinda new to zbrush so i was just wondering how do you merge those 2 meshes into one (vimeo video 2:30min)

Strkl

Hey, Like I said in the video, I duplicate the mesh by using the transpose move tool (W)

and then clicking and draging on the middle circle while holding CTRL, you need to be without any subdivision to do this, after this you can do a dynamesh to merge everything cleanly

Strkl

Part 2 of the video is here (baking & retopo), maybe less exciting, but I hope it can be useful fore some people !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91mjLhKWPg&feature=youtu.be
https://vimeo.com/76278726

mats effect

Really looking forward to watching the videos. Thanks!

netghost03

damn sweet man!
great videos. thanks!

sixbysix

Great, great, great. Thanks a bunch.

What’s the music by the way?

Strkl

Thanks all ! Wich music ? they're a bunch of stuff (solar field, C418, lifeformed, bonobo,etc)

Strkl

Little update !

marmo render


flat render

Texturing recording is done, I just need to do the editing and then upload !

MrNinjutsu

Your rocks rock.

Flight

Great stuff, keep it up.

sltrOlsson

I think the way you duplicate it around is a great way to get some good shapes going!

What's your basic workflow for the tileble sculpt? Did you drop meshes onto 2.5D or did you do it in 3D?

You should never ever ever use the zbrush normal matcap. Just look around in the channels of that grab. It highlights edges and put a tilt to them.

Will you record the polypainting as well? Or is it polypainted at all?

Strkl

Thanks !
For the tileable texture, I was using 2.5D before but I find it more easy to do it it 3D, i'll post a video of that later

As for the matcap in zbrush, I can agree to what you are saying, but usually by merging the Zbrush Normal matcap and the correct one (al_normal_map) I can have some good result...But I totally didn't realized the thing about the highlights, I just saw that, now I think you're right about not using them...
It was a good way to boost the normal a bit, I'll need to find something else ^^

I'm currently uploading the video for texturing, I use the same process for tileable and rock models ! should be online very soon, thank for the feaback

EDIT : there it is !

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxLB5uEOkU"]Rock workflow - Part 03 - Texturing - YouTube[/ame]

maximumsproductions

Great rocks as you've heard but another thing is how well your video is edited. It's not only a watch through process but the fact you added your comments about your process is so helpful on top of that they're so precise / direct and not cluttered.. (it's absolutely perfect)

What's funny is how watching you use some of those alphas from ZCentral helped speed up my workflow so much.. No more attempting detail with a square alpha or splattering geometric shapes! Such a simple thing that never clicked I guess.

I wish you good fortune on your future sales whenever you finish.

dissonance

Finally got around to watching the video, and it's very well done! Thanks for taking the time to type all of those captions out; they really help.

Strkl

maximumsproductions wrote: »

Great rocks as you've heard but another thing is how well your video is edited. It's not only a watch through process but the fact you added your comments about your process is so helpful on top of that they're so precise / direct and not cluttered.. (it's absolutely perfect)

What's funny is how watching you use some of those alphas from ZCentral helped speed up my workflow so much.. No more attempting detail with a square alpha or splattering geometric shapes! Such a simple thing that never clicked I guess.

I wish you good fortune on your future sales whenever you finish.

Thank you so much for the kind word ! ^^

@dissonance thanks !

AbKI

Thank you for the videos, they have been really helpful!

Strkl

Some progress !

it's been a while since I've done some tileable rocks, I'm not that happy with my current texture, I need to pratice again...Anyway I did the recording for this texture, I'll do the caption & upload when I have the time !

Strkl

another update, I wasn't happy with the last one so I wanted to try something else, and did a tileable texture, but using 2.5D this time...here is how that turned out,

I also tried to generate mask by using different matcap grab and adjusting level in photoshop

those take around 30 45min to make, I think i'll make quite a lot instead of the little number I said

maximumsproductions

Very nice, keep it up. your newer tilable definitely follows your planar rock theme more.

dissonance

Hell yeah dude, that looks fantastic.

gamerenrique

Nice rocks!

DougClayton4231

Dem rocks Awesome work!

nksilver5

Hey bud !

Nice rocks alex

Cool tutos, have the same workflow ( haha ), cool to have it here and explained very well

I have some cool tips and trics too, will share it here and with you asap !

Strkl

nksilver5 wrote: »

Cool tutos, have the same workflow ( haha ), cool to have it here and explained very well

Thanks

I wonder who taught you in the beginning ;p

nksilver5

Muhahaha ;o

I Found some new tools / techniques for rock sculpting also

Have some cool tricks with custom mat in Z and normal tricks, will share it asap °^_^°

Strkl

quick update with the tileable rock tutorial,

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEGAkV_LOfo"]Rock workflow - Part 04 bonus - Tileable Texture - YouTube[/ame]

and the playlist !

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUaaf_GznFt6N2HY_xqogcYXtyWMg-l5S

Strkl

Little update with the web^player demo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46909260/RockPack01/WebPlayer/WebPlayer.html

and the asset store link (feel free to share )
http://u3d.as/content/alex-s-/rock-pack-01/5Er