Kate & Virgil

Seraphinn

Okay..after spending a few hours every day for a week or so, im stymied, im fairly happy with colours and design, but now im lost in terms of making the character look better than it is.

Atm i only have the diffuse and normal maps applied, i have tried to make gloss and specular maps for the head but I've not had much experience before and I'm not entirely happy with the results (as shown below) Any advice would be greatly appreciated as to where and how to use the maps properly

..LATEST UPDATE..



Any comments/critiques are welcomed and greatly appreciative!

Thanks

Seraphinn

Quick update on Kate & Virgil!



Hopefully gunna wrap up the moddelling portion of this soon, just have tweaks and small bits too add to it. Jewellery, tech, maybe a rotor recon drone...

As always any comments/critiques are welcomed and greatly appreciative!

Seraphinn

Okay..so I think I'm finally ready to call the initial modelling stage done. Going to take her into mudbox/zbrush to get the shapes a little bit more what i want. Mainly..feminising the face. Then do the sculpt. Aiming to make Kate and Virgil in game resolution so hopefully get them fully textured and into Marmoset/UDK/Unity for theyre final renders...hopefully get them a lil' animation too.

Render below is just a plain material render pass with an Ambient render overlayed on top in PS



and musnt forget her faithful useful Drone!

Pabs

there seems to be some sort of problem with the insertion/origin of the neck muscle. you might want to look at some reference on that.

might just be me, but that dog's head look a bit too big

Deathstick

I really like how you're incorporating that dress/skirt/shirt thing I've seen girls wear these days, its sort of an interesting clash between all the gear/cargo shorts and I'd love to see how it looks when textured.

Keep it up!

Seraphinn

@scapulator: yeah i think it is a little skewed by the image...but I'll definitely have a closer look.

@Deathstick: Yeah think i might texture it to be like a dirty hello kitty or something, just to keep the contrast going but i'll decide it later

Update
Just been sculpting out some detail in the backpack..Tried using zBrush 4R5..but with no experience found it insanely difficult..so went back to Mudbox. Think its just learning what brushes are the same as in Mudbox
The blank plane of polys wasn't meant to be with the model, hence no sculpting, going to be elastic netting type thing.

Seraphinn

Not been working on anything since my last update due to poor health!...so finally got back into it and did the image below

Seraphinn

Been working a bit more on the sculpts...



and the latest sub tool sculp



As always comments and critiques are welcomed!

Seraphinn

Been doing some more sculpting on Kate...

Dont know if it shows cause of the matcap but..she does have pores and wrinkles

Seraphinn

and a complete composite of so far...

Pabs

i see you neglected to take my advice on looking at neck reference. the neck muscles only 'pop' out like that when you turn your head to the right/left, not when it's facing forward. and you have them inserting into the clavicle, so it seems.

you might also want to make the arms thicker, especially the forearms. they look way too skiny compared to the torso.

Seraphinn

Been plugging away at texturing, baking the maps took a long time with my ol' laptop so took a long time. Working on it at nights mostly so not had a lot of work time on it.

Latest update - working on hair texture atm just to get it right
Image below is just Normal and Diffuse. With exception of eyes an hair obv.

Seraphinn

Quick texture knock up playing around with colours and style



Critiques always welcome as always.

Marcus_Aseth

Something wrong with those arms :poly122:

Is like if there is only the bone there,like a skeleton :poly141:

Seraphinn

They are a little bit thin, might play around with the geometry and see what looks best. Might be a mix of the white background giving the illusion too though.

Seraphinn

Chugging along

Di$array

Overall, good job on the progress but as Marcus pointed out above the arms and hands are still too thin, I suggest look at reference images. After quick Google search here is a couple of images I found.




Elsewhere the eyes on the face are riding to high, so you could try lowering them. In addition to that the bottom of the shirt, where it has that frilly skirt thingy could do with some creases and fold to break up the symmetrical look it currently has.

But keep chipping away at it as it is coming along really well.

Seraphinn

Thanks for the crits, altered her a bit on the arms to make them thicker heres a full front quick render.


As for the eyes they're at the right place think it was just the render angle that altered its appearance.

Im not sold on the cargo shorts or the top atm thinking i need a colour change.

as for the frills, yeah i plan to alter those once the textures complete, gunna make them less strong..was my first attempt at creating them..not a great result, but i think the characters coming along nicely.

Seraphinn

Since only diffuse and normal maps were only use i started work on the spec and gloss maps to make the skin more realistic... since i've only ever mae ba spec maps this was my chance to try and make a decent one and to make my first gloss map..



This is just a mray render using a 3 point lighting setup, but i need feedback before i get to the point where starting again rather than editing would be best.

These wierd shading issues pop up only when my normal maps applied any suggestions?

Seraphinn

So I put Kate into Marmoset and got the result below, totally not happy about how it turned out, not sure of the reason for the vast diffrence between max mray render an marmoset.

Seraphinn

Update on Kate skin, not sure if im heading in the right direction or not, could use some help/advice.



Quick render using Mray, default lighting

Seraphinn

Im putting the shown maps in specular Level, is that correct?

All images above also use Standard Max shader

Seraphinn

Okay so using Xoliul's shader..gives much better results...Obv theres a few problems with maps that need clearing up, but otherwise its much better than my marmoset try



Is Xoliul's shader that far off from an engine?

Seraphinn

Project shelved - Due to loss of all my files when my old laptop BSOD...may it live forever in computer heaven.