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Hey guys

Thought I would show my next project nice and early this time, its going to be a month long project (all of September in other words). Its inspired by the last of us main menu and of course the awesome diorama work Scott Homer has done.

Reference board 1

Reference board 2

Had hoped to finish the highpoly block out before posting but work and all has been busy this week.

Anyway I know its early but feel free to let me know what you think so far.

http://i.imgur.com/A0uSGwF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XzsBG1p.jpg

Note: All the old screens I changed to url links after I post new ones, so the topic loads faster for people

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Starting to make some progress with this, work has allowed me few full days to work on it but non the less here is what I have so far. Had hoped to get the high poly floor done today too but might get a start on that tomorrow.

Wanted to play around with the bricks a bit more too. I think having some a bit more twisted and falling out would be nice.

http://i.imgur.com/P6zgsDT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XgLigHJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/f45sm89.jpg

Dazz3r

Good start dude, the first obvious crit would be that how each row of bricks lines up doesnt look right, they're too closely lined up on top of each other, no brick layer would lay them like that. However I'm really liking the bricks themselves

Overmind5000

Offset the bricks a little like Dazz3r suggests and it will look spiffy.

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Thanks very much guys. I will get some time today or tomorrow to sort out the brick positions

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Quick update, played around with the bricks for about half an hour.

http://i.imgur.com/OaStVIJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TVogLva.jpg

ToffeeApple

Hey

I'm liking what you have so far. The broken glass feels a little unnatural - perhaps it needs to be more jagged like this -

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1920&bih=962&tbm=isch&tbnid=tpyIxyhcWcpOzM:&imgrefurl=http://www.imageafter.com/image.php%3Fimage%3Db4walls041.jpg&docid=yfeALF2ZWCtNaM&imgurl=http://www.imageafter.com/dbase/textures/walls/b4walls041.jpg&w=1536&h=2048&ei=GRI7UqHmJaey0QXR04GIBg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:15,s:0,i:125&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=182&tbnw=133&start=0&ndsp=37&tx=67&ty=98

Have you thought about how the glass was broken? This may give you some indication on how it should look.

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Thanks. Yeah I agree the glass is a bit odd at the moment, I think I really need to go back to it and start it over. Also not really thought about how it was broken as you say, something I will have to think about.

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Quick update on things will hopefully have more later. Really want to get the highpoly done this weekend so I can move on to textures. Got a few days off work now so should be able to make progress

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Thought I was a bit over due for an update. Still clearly a lot to do but I have started to texture things. Please excuse the awful lighting. Anyone got any good tips or links for indoor lighting in cry engine? Its all in a vis area at the moment.

http://i.imgur.com/mkXEFAO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/R8fv0rd.jpg

Rhoutermans

can only see post #9 so I'll comment on that
I like the bricks, those will probably work well, I think the wood looks too wobbly tho. Also maybe break open a floor plank? Proper lighting can make this look killer when it's finished Keep goin'!

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Thanks for the feedback rhoutermans, I will look into the wood, I might look into opening a floor plank or two as well that would look pretty cool Been thinking about it in the back of my head.

Screenshots should be showing now for post 9.

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Added the radiator in this morning. Still not really happy with its materials though gona go back to it and try and nail the worn metal look a bit more. Still not really done much with lighting too.

Been using a lot of dDo for this its great for getting a base ans adding effects quickly but, need to go in and really detail the assets now.

http://i.imgur.com/5kPj6IR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RZ2fZE2.jpg

BJA

Before tweaking materials or working on the lighting you should get the scaling of the scene right The heater for example is way too small. Just compare it with the bricks. One brick stone has almost the same length as the heater.

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@BJA: Thanks you are 100% right gona spend some time now trying to fix that.

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Made a few quick changes to the scale

http://i.imgur.com/TD8gagS.jpg

Prtofdacrowd

Just a quick note that you could place another pipe coming out of the upper left hand side of the diorama, just to add some further detail to it as it would be the pipe for the radiator

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Good idea man, cheers for that

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Starting to focus on lighting and fixing up materials today. Will also get onto the stuff people suggested including the extra pipes. Hopefully will have glass by the end of the day too.

http://i.imgur.com/qf1D4VL.jpg

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Sorry for like a second post so soon but made more progress throughout today. The glass is still pretty early though.

http://i.imgur.com/Kexm2q7.png

http://i.imgur.com/NZ6TWUa.png

Prtofdacrowd

Wow cool, really popped it a bit more nice work!

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cheers

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Morning!

Think I am about ready to call this done unless anyone wants to suggest any other changes. I can still give more time to it in that case, need to optimize some of the textures as most are still at work resolution. Any and all feedback welcome as always.

http://i.imgur.com/yOcFwaH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DxkZ5ba.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/V0vTCxI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UAKn1WV.jpg

Prtofdacrowd

You know what would look really nice in this scene, a badass chesterfield seat.... or something to give a more context to the purpose of the building you rippppppeeeddd a bit out off

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@Prtofdacrowd Haha yeah that would be awesome actually. Was thinking about calling it a day with this one but actually going to spend more time with it so that could be on the cards


Made a few more changes based on feedback from here and twitter.All the textures are 512 and 1024 apart from the main floor that I left at 2048.

pes

Pipes going through the bricks? really?

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Yeah noticed they are clipping a bit at the back will fix that.


edit: updated second screenshot to fix the pipes

mettigel

Like it !:)

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@mettigel Thanks! Always more I could improve on but, I am quite happy with it so far.

Endfinity Jon

Dear Mat (and your effect),

This scene is really coming along. Your sculpt is lovely, and it looks to be making a great little vignette.

Two things stand out to me: Your colors and your lighting.

Your colors are all coming from that same warm tone family - Reds, browns, oranges. I think the scene could use a little variation in that sense. I'm not too sure what you can do about that at this stage, maybe some shifting here and there to add a bit more color contrast.

As far as the lighting is concerned, I think everything is lit pretty evenly. I'd like to see a bit more drama in the setup. Right now I can see the footprint of what looks to be 2 point lights hitting the floor. These lights aren't motivated by anything and it makes the scene feel a bit off. It might be cool if you introduced a floor lamp that was the driving source for your lighting in the scene. That way you could justify having a pool of light that falls off from one side to the other because I think some light attenuation/gradation would add more interest here.

Either way, this is looking really nice. Just a couple touch-ups, and maybe some minor prop work to complete the "view".

Keep on truckin!
-Jon

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@Endfinity Jon

Thanks so much great feedback, totally agree with everything you pointed out and taking it all on board.

Had a few other people suggest things as well so I quickly blocked out on idea for how to fill some of that space and give more of a story to the scene. Gona have more of the destruction on the edges too as you can see I have started to play around with falling bricks, its all pretty rough at the moment though.

More or less thinking of having an old wooden chair (or maybe a chesterfield) with a lamp and a few books beside it.

http://i.imgur.com/2Jhppzd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lBHwryH.jpg

Trevelyan .

Hello Mat, finally got some time to take a look at your thread! Thanks for all the feedback and comments on mine, I thought i'd throw my two cents into the mix and hopefully help you keep going with this, it's looking cool so far. I'm about to go to bed so i'll quickly bullet point a few things you might want to look into, either on this or your next project

- brick colour variation, at first glance brick walls do look orange, however this is the culmination of many different hues in a lot of cases, particularly with older bricks like yours. A quick tip is to take some of your reference images into photoshop and risize it to 28 x 28 or something small, but use the 'nearest neighbour - preserve hard edges' option. Now zoom in and observe allll the different colours, browns, pinks, purples, blues...this will give you a lovely colour palette to sample allowing you to add in some subtle colour variation. You can even do it on a new layer set to soft light, with low opacity, and just lightly brush in some new colours.

- brick dark edges, whilst looking at some of your brick reference, it does appear that the individual bricks are separated by dark lines, however, this is the shadow between the bricks, rather than a dark edge on the brick itself. Infact, at the edges of your bricks it might be nice to have a subtle, lighter edge to emphasise the softness and bevel of the edges themselves. Having the dark edge to your brick texture makes them appear overly and a little unrealistically dirty in my opinion. Maybe give the lighter edge a try, or even just removing the dark edge and compare it to some more brick ref and see what you think.

Window scale - it's hard to tell from your reference images since there are no scale indicators (like people in the shots) but something about your windows makes the panes of glass seem a little too large for that style of frame...perhaps you could try thickening the wooden frames or experimenting with more 'rows and columns' of panes, if you know what I mean? I also might try a different colour wood frame, like peeling white paint for example, to separate it from the brick, which is a similar colour to the wood right now.

Here's a few points for you to consider anyway, really just minor adjustments that you might want to play with and see what you think. They are only suggestions though, ha I won't be offended if the next update doesn't include them! Just keep on going with this it's really hotting up, look forward to the next update!

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Great feedback Trevelyan thanks so much! Taking all that on board and will get on it

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Time for another update

http://i.imgur.com/4MPFfVS.png

Pookhan

Hey man, this is looking good. Although the chair and lamp look quite unnatural. It doesn't seem like someone would place their furniture that way in their house. There isn't much space in front of the chair for someone to get access. Maybe you could try making the floor space bigger and place the props further apart?

I like where it is going though. Really nice!

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Cheers Pookhan. Yeah I get what you mean, the idea in my head was some old guy had pulled the chair up to the radiator it put his feet up on it and read by the lamp light (thinking of modeling some book piles) as the world falls apart around him.

But I do agree its quite unnatural for furniture placement at the same time. Might need to toy around with it more.

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Another update, think its looking a lot better than a few days ago.