Model Presentation 3Ds Max (Texture Issue)

Visceral

Hello PC. Have another simple question for you guys.

Im in a situation where i want a simple viewport grab of some of my props.
However, i seem to encounter some issues regarding lighting and textures.
What i want is this flat and very clean look with wireframes.
Much like this:



However, my textures endup looking totally compressed with wrong color values, and wheird artefacts where there would be gradiants.

I also would like to know how to completly remove shading in the viewport for this kind of presentation. Consistent colors dosnt work and i really dont want to use the shaded or realistic options. Simply , no lighting or shading at all.

Probably going to be really simple. Im using Max 2014


EDIT: Just to get things clear. I have allready checked the Max settings for display texture resolution, that is set to match bitmap as close as possible. Its the color artifacting/compression im having issues with.

Obscura

Use the flat shading mode or use 100% self illumination in your material.

Visceral

Well thats the problem really, i cant find the flat shading mode anywhere

PolyHertz

Consistent Colors = Flat Shading. If that doesn't work try setting the material to 100 Self Illumination. If that doesn't work enable Display tab > Display Properties > vertex colors

poopipe

Are your textures ^2 sizes ? Weird sized maps get resized badly

Visceral

poopipe wrote: »

Are your textures ^2 sizes ? Weird sized maps get resized badly

Well yeah. They are 1024 maps. But it happends to basicly every size.

Eric Chadwick

Screenshot please. Can't tell what the problem is without seeing the problem!

Visceral

Not sure how well it shows up but i threw together a simple example.

How it looks in max (but even slightly worse than this)


Original texture 512x512


Dont know if it matters, but im using Nitrous and Realistic Materials with Maps. Is this something i should stay away from? go back to OpenGl or Direct3d or whatever?

EDIT: examples didnt really show the issue, but in Photoshop i get a perfect gradiant. whereas i get this banding thing in Max. Its moore apparent in some cases moore than other.

PolyHertz

Oh, that's a completely different issue then it sounded like you had.
Are you saving out the map as a TGA at a low bit depth perhaps (16bit TGAs will get that banding)? Or are you using the actual psd in Max?

Visceral

TGA 24 bit. Im sorry my original post was a bit unclear. Mainly beacuse i dont understand it myself.
Couldnt upload the texture tga to imgur.

PolyHertz

It's a long shot, but this might help: http://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/nitrous-texture-tweaker

Visceral

It works...but not as i expected it to work. Basicly while using Nitrus (cba to spell it proper every time) the script did nothing. But when i went back to OpenGL the problem looked worse at first, until i opened the script and just hit apply. Then it fixed everything.

Would be intresting to know how and why this happend though.

poopipe

Linear vs non linear space issue?

Noors

Yeah gamma issue. Rendering>gamma lut>disable it.
Also, do yourself a favor and switch back to directX.

Visceral

Ok, turned off Gamma LUT thingy. Im running in OpenGl right now. Cant see any option for directX? its just OpenGL and direct3d?

Noors

Direct3d yeah. It's part of DirectX, so abuse of language sorry.

br41n

Also, try changing the common output settings to a square size, and then when u have your cursor in the viewport, hit Shift+F, if your aspect ratio is wrong it shud fix it.

ElleKitty

Noors wrote: »

Yeah gamma issue. Rendering>gamma lut>disable it.
Also, do yourself a favor and switch back to directX.

I second this. I've used Nitrous for a while, and it gave me various issues...
1. Back polys showing s front
2. Viewport shading solution taking forever to reload
3. Even if I just went into a menu!
I went back to Direct3D and found that it too has caught up and now has tone mapping, ambient occlusion, viewport shadows.